I don't know why, but most of my recent posts got -1 or -2 votes on it as soon as it got uploaded. Is this a new, automated scoring system or a bug?
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Sacriven said:
I don't know why, but most of my recent posts got -1 or -2 votes on it as soon as it got uploaded. Is this a new, automated scoring system or a bug?
Only albert can tell who voted for what. If I had to guess, though, getting -3 all of a sudden sounds like one of supervoters disliked the posts.
The Touhou posts have good scores. The Fuuro/Skyla sex posts, on the other hand, don't - and if you asked me why, it's because the art in those is.... well, I don't like it as the breasts look pretty artificial in how they hang and in their shape. Or the voter(s) don't like Skyla or seeing her like that.
Jarlath said:
The Touhou posts have good scores. The Fuuro/Skyla sex posts, on the other hand, don't - and if you asked me why, it's because the art in those is.... well, I don't like it as the breasts look pretty artificial in how they hang and in their shape. Or the voter(s) don't like Skyla or seeing her like that.
I find it funny that after you stated this, my two Sakuya posts' score went up from -2 to 1 and 2 respectively.
One of the user PM'ed me and admitted that he's the one behind negative votes (I won't say who he is). He tells me that he did all of that because he loves Touhou and didn't want me to post some erotic images of it. He even asked me to toned down my uploading activity. Really?
I got the impression that this is the same guy who makes the "Pure girl shouldn't be lewded tbh" flag in other thread.
Here are the downvotes you received. Looks like a lot of -3's from a supervoter:
{"post": "post #2487502", "rating": "e", "score": 10, "up_score": 13, "down_score": -3}
{"post": "post #2487335", "rating": "s", "score": 1, "up_score": 6, "down_score": -5}
{"post": "post #2487334", "rating": "s", "score": 2, "up_score": 7, "down_score": -5}
{"post": "post #2487333", "rating": "e", "score": 0, "up_score": 4, "down_score": -4}
{"post": "post #2487148", "rating": "s", "score": 0, "up_score": 3, "down_score": -3}
{"post": "post #2487097", "rating": "s", "score": 0, "up_score": 3, "down_score": -3}
{"post": "post #2487062", "rating": "e", "score": -1, "up_score": 2, "down_score": -3}
{"post": "post #2487061", "rating": "e", "score": -3, "up_score": 0, "down_score": -3}
{"post": "post #2487060", "rating": "e", "score": -3, "up_score": 0, "down_score": -3}
{"post": "post #2487059", "rating": "e", "score": -2, "up_score": 1, "down_score": -3}
{"post": "post #2487057", "rating": "e", "score": -3, "up_score": 0, "down_score": -3}
{"post": "post #2487055", "rating": "e", "score": -3, "up_score": 0, "down_score": -3}
{"post": "post #2487054", "rating": "e", "score": -3, "up_score": 0, "down_score": -3}
{"post": "post #2487052", "rating": "e", "score": -3, "up_score": 0, "down_score": -3}
{"post": "post #2487050", "rating": "e", "score": 0, "up_score": 3, "down_score": -3}
{"post": "post #2486750", "rating": "e", "score": 5, "up_score": 6, "down_score": -1}
{"post": "post #2486310", "rating": "s", "score": 3, "up_score": 4, "down_score": -1}
{"post": "post #2486114", "rating": "s", "score": 4, "up_score": 5, "down_score": -1}
{"post": "post #2485956", "rating": "s", "score": 3, "up_score": 4, "down_score": -1}
{"post": "post #2485647", "rating": "e", "score": 2, "up_score": 5, "down_score": -3}
{"post": "post #2485646", "rating": "e", "score": 0, "up_score": 3, "down_score": -3}
{"post": "post #2485645", "rating": "s", "score": 6, "up_score": 7, "down_score": -1}
{"post": "post #2485616", "rating": "q", "score": 8, "up_score": 9, "down_score": -1}
{"post": "post #2485567", "rating": "s", "score": 7, "up_score": 8, "down_score": -1}
{"post": "post #2485458", "rating": "q", "score": 5, "up_score": 6, "down_score": -1}
{"post": "post #2485403", "rating": "q", "score": 8, "up_score": 9, "down_score": -1}
{"post": "post #2485282", "rating": "q", "score": 11, "up_score": 12, "down_score": -1}
{"post": "post #2485281", "rating": "q", "score": 7, "up_score": 8, "down_score": -1}
{"post": "post #2485245", "rating": "s", "score": 4, "up_score": 5, "down_score": -1}
{"post": "post #2485244", "rating": "s", "score": 5, "up_score": 6, "down_score": -1}
{"post": "post #2483563", "rating": "s", "score": 5, "up_score": 7, "down_score": -2}
{"post": "post #2483533", "rating": "s", "score": 6, "up_score": 7, "down_score": -1}
{"post": "post #2483470", "rating": "s", "score": 16, "up_score": 19, "down_score": -3}
And here is the current list of supervoters:
People can downvote for whatever dumb reasons they want, that's their prerogative, but a supervoter targeting you because of a personal grudge seems like an abuse of power.
evazion said:
Here are the downvotes you received. Looks like a lot of -3's from a supervoter:
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{"post": "post #2487502", "rating": "e", "score": 10, "up_score": 13, "down_score": -3}
{"post": "post #2487335", "rating": "s", "score": 1, "up_score": 6, "down_score": -5}
{"post": "post #2487334", "rating": "s", "score": 2, "up_score": 7, "down_score": -5}
{"post": "post #2487333", "rating": "e", "score": 0, "up_score": 4, "down_score": -4}
{"post": "post #2487148", "rating": "s", "score": 0, "up_score": 3, "down_score": -3}
{"post": "post #2487097", "rating": "s", "score": 0, "up_score": 3, "down_score": -3}
{"post": "post #2487062", "rating": "e", "score": -1, "up_score": 2, "down_score": -3}
{"post": "post #2487061", "rating": "e", "score": -3, "up_score": 0, "down_score": -3}
{"post": "post #2487060", "rating": "e", "score": -3, "up_score": 0, "down_score": -3}
{"post": "post #2487059", "rating": "e", "score": -2, "up_score": 1, "down_score": -3}
{"post": "post #2487057", "rating": "e", "score": -3, "up_score": 0, "down_score": -3}
{"post": "post #2487055", "rating": "e", "score": -3, "up_score": 0, "down_score": -3}
{"post": "post #2487054", "rating": "e", "score": -3, "up_score": 0, "down_score": -3}
{"post": "post #2487052", "rating": "e", "score": -3, "up_score": 0, "down_score": -3}
{"post": "post #2487050", "rating": "e", "score": 0, "up_score": 3, "down_score": -3}
{"post": "post #2486750", "rating": "e", "score": 5, "up_score": 6, "down_score": -1}
{"post": "post #2486310", "rating": "s", "score": 3, "up_score": 4, "down_score": -1}
{"post": "post #2486114", "rating": "s", "score": 4, "up_score": 5, "down_score": -1}
{"post": "post #2485956", "rating": "s", "score": 3, "up_score": 4, "down_score": -1}
{"post": "post #2485647", "rating": "e", "score": 2, "up_score": 5, "down_score": -3}
{"post": "post #2485646", "rating": "e", "score": 0, "up_score": 3, "down_score": -3}
{"post": "post #2485645", "rating": "s", "score": 6, "up_score": 7, "down_score": -1}
{"post": "post #2485616", "rating": "q", "score": 8, "up_score": 9, "down_score": -1}
{"post": "post #2485567", "rating": "s", "score": 7, "up_score": 8, "down_score": -1}
{"post": "post #2485458", "rating": "q", "score": 5, "up_score": 6, "down_score": -1}
{"post": "post #2485403", "rating": "q", "score": 8, "up_score": 9, "down_score": -1}
{"post": "post #2485282", "rating": "q", "score": 11, "up_score": 12, "down_score": -1}
{"post": "post #2485281", "rating": "q", "score": 7, "up_score": 8, "down_score": -1}
{"post": "post #2485245", "rating": "s", "score": 4, "up_score": 5, "down_score": -1}
{"post": "post #2485244", "rating": "s", "score": 5, "up_score": 6, "down_score": -1}
{"post": "post #2483563", "rating": "s", "score": 5, "up_score": 7, "down_score": -2}
{"post": "post #2483533", "rating": "s", "score": 6, "up_score": 7, "down_score": -1}
{"post": "post #2483470", "rating": "s", "score": 16, "up_score": 19, "down_score": -3}And here is the current list of supervoters:
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People can downvote for whatever dumb reasons they want, that's their prerogative, but a supervoter targeting you because of a personal grudge seems like an abuse of power.
Well, he's not on the list. I bet he just started recently on Danbooru.
Yeah, his reasoning is "Touhou is too pure omg, there's a lot of other series out there to be sexualized. I don't like you 'coz you posts some sexualized Touhou". That's why I directed him to Safebooru instead of here. Now waiting for response.
Sounds like a reason to stop his supervoting capability. Just because you like a franchise and dislike R-18 art is no reason to do that.
I dislike Hisahiko's R-18 art and think Sako_(bosscoffee)'s gigantic breasts in his R-18 art is grotesque, but that doesn't mean I have to flag or down vote it. I just skip it or refuse to upload it and move on with things.
Sacriven said:
One of the user PM'ed me and admitted that he's the one behind negative votes (I won't say who he is). He tells me that he did all of that because he loves Touhou and didn't want me to post some erotic images of it. He even asked me to toned down my uploading activity. Really?
I got the impression that this is the same guy who makes the "Pure girl shouldn't be lewded tbh" flag in other thread.
If you're talking about me, then I'm not a supervoter. I'm not a voter of any kind. My account is basic.
I'm not asking you to stop uploading nor did I say I disliked you. There's no reason to dismissively mock me. I've already politely explained my reasons for my request. I can assure you it's strictly out of respect for a hobbyist independent game creator and not some odd flag reasons.
HarkenLar said:
If you're talking about me, then I'm not a supervoter. I'm not a voter of any kind. My account is basic.
I'm not asking you to stop uploading nor did I say I disliked you. There's no reason to dismissively mock me. I've already politely explained my reasons for my request. I can assure you it's strictly out of respect for a hobbyist independent game creator and not some odd flag reasons.
Then you asked me the impossible. In Danbooru, every rating (Safe, Questionable, Explicit) is acceptable. You asked me to toned down my Touhou posts because you feel uneasy about it, right? Then Safebooru is the perfect place for you.
Let me quote your reasoning to avoid misunderstanding by other users.
It's an indie game series made by one guy as a hobby. He's been given a lot of chances to sellout and go big time with it, but has declined prefering to keep it as just a hobby. He even still has a normal job. The guy's got a ton of integrity is what I'm saying.
That said, touhou is also a completely clean series with no sexual content anywhere in the source material. There's not even panty shots despite all the flying girls everywhere. The creator has even said he thinks it's sad the doujin community has so much hentai in it and started sharing touhou to put another clean option out there. That was even one of the main reasons he started going public with it.
So with all that in mind I'm going to politely ask you: Please tone it down with all the touhou porn. I'm noticing you're uploading a lot of it and considering the nature of both the series and it's creator it's very disrespectful to go so hard on the sexual fanart.
First of all, I know ZUN. All Touhou fans respect him, including me. The fact that Touhou games still continues until now is an undeniable proof for his hard work. That's why it still popular even after 12 years passed.
But popularity comes with a price. Have you ever heard about Rule 34? Even Touhou can't escape from this rule. It's impossible. Touhou porn comes from the Touhou fan too, as a way to show their love to Touhou in other ways. Not to mention that Touhou is filled with cute girls, so practically it is begging to be "explored" in many ways.
I remember ZUN stated that he doesn't like Touhou porn, but still allowed anyway as a respect to his fans' creativity. ZUN won't limit us when it comes to Touhou, so why you?
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It's not about me being uneasy. It's not about my feelings at all. It's about Zun's wishes and feelings and getting others to understand and be sympathetic or at least respectful towards them.
Rule 34 is a meme. It was born from places like 4chan as a joke. It's people that choose to continue it, it's not a real law or mandate. Personally I've told many artists the same thing as I've told you and some have chosen to stop or tone down their R18 works out of respect towards it's creator.
Zun doesn't allow it, he understands there's nothing he can directly do but state his wishes and hope people choose to respect it. It's the same as his feelings towards spoiling endings. He never gave a strict rule, he only stated his thoughts on the matter and most of the fandom honors it.
It all comes down to an issue of respect. Do you respect his creativity and efforts? Then why not respect his wishes for his works as well?
I've done about as much as I politely can to help others understand touhou's nature and it's creator's wishes. If people still want to go against it, then there's not much I can reasonable do.
At this point this discussion no longer has anything to do with the thread's original topic so this should be taken to private messages if it needs to continue.
HarkenLar said:
It's not about me being uneasy. It's not about my feelings at all. It's about Zun's wishes and feelings and getting others to understand and be sympathetic or at least respectful towards them.
Rule 34 is a meme. It was born from places like 4chan as a joke. It's people that choose to continue it, it's not a real law or mandate. Personally I've told many artists the same thing as I've told you and some have chosen to stop or tone down their R18 works out of respect towards it's creator.
Zun doesn't allow it, he understands there's nothing he can directly do but state his wishes and hope people choose to respect it. It's the same as his feelings towards spoiling endings. He never gave a strict rule, he only stated his thoughts on the matter and most of the fandom honors it.
It all comes down to an issue of respect. Do you respect his creativity and efforts? Then why not respect his wishes for his works as well?
I've done about as much as I politely can to help others understand touhou's nature and it's creator's wishes. If people still want to go against it, then there's not much I can reasonable do.
At this point this discussion no longer has anything to do with the thread's original topic so this should be taken to private messages if it needs to continue.
>Personally I've told many artists the same thing as I've told you and some have chosen to stop or tone down their R18 works out of respect towards it's creator.
Good, then continue to do so. What's the point of messaging me, an uploader? If I keep uploading R-18 stuffs, that's because THEY STILL PROVIDE THEM.
>Rule 34 is a meme
This isn't a meme if it's actually happened.
>He never gave a strict rule, he only stated his thoughts on the matter and most of the fandom honors it.
How ironic. And you're here trying to establish an "stop R-18 Touhou stuffs" rule.
>It all comes down to an issue of respect. Do you respect his creativity and efforts? Then why not respect his wishes for his works as well?
Oh come on, your logic is flawed. Touhou without fandoms is pretty much dead. IF ZUN really wishes that, then why he still do Reitaisai, when pretty much everything on it is fandom works? Do you really think that everyone there is a pure, enlightened person?
>I've done about as much as I politely can to help others understand touhou's nature and it's creator's wishes. If people still want to go against it, then there's not much I can reasonable do.
Then you've got the wrong person. If you really want people to stop, try talking to the source itself: the artists. Honestly I don't get your point of messaged me about this, for what I've done is just uploading stuffs, and you act as I'm the source of all blame. Funny.
HarkenLar said:
At this point this discussion no longer has anything to do with the thread's original topic so this should be taken to private messages if it needs to continue.
It shouldn't be continued regardless. If something isn't against the rules of the site, users shouldn't be discouraging others from doing/posting it. Danbooru gives you the tools necessary to filter out posts containing things you don't want to see; the rest of us shouldn't be limited to your tastes and ideals. If that was how it worked and the site had to conform to every person out there at the same time, there'd be pretty much nothing here if the site even continued to exist.
I'm not a fan of R18, but neither do I attempt to stop others as it's allowed by the site, and as long as it meets quality standards... that's all that matters.
In the end, there's a lot of things people don't like - but that doesn't mean I try to stop it, unless it's blatantly illegal. Rule 34 is a codification of a fact of life: if something exists, someone somewhere will have a fetish for it. Some of them may have the art skills to create art to show off their fetish to others to fap/schlick to.
And as long as it meets Danbooru standards, someone will upload it for others to appreciate even if nobody else here does.
Ai-to-Yukai said:
Wait, I'm still a supervoter? I thought I lost that ability a few months ago. Weird.
It's just based on whether you share albert's taste in images. I believe if you have a certain threshold of similar preferences in favorited images you become a supervoter, and lose it if it falls below?