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Topic: Pointless Pools

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NWF Renim

I was looking at post #312858 and noticed that it was in a pool just labeled "7" (pool #403). There is nothing to describe what the pool is for, nothing that appears as a real unifying theme, and it's private, which makes me believe it's someone's favorites list. Is this an acceptable use for a pool?

Edit (Dec 4, 2008 ): Title changed to be more general. Former title "The 7 Pool."

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  • Kayako

    I've seen stranger pools that haven't been brought into question. There's one, I think it's called "Erofen Lied". All it is (the last time I checked) is an empty pool with the description "I love how girls are like slut toys".

    I've seen the pool in question, at first I thought it was a pool for 774's work (although heaven knows why we'd need one). Now it's looking like a favorites list.

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  • jxh2154

    I as going to make a thread about these actually. I motion that any pool that does not specifically and legitimately (in the pool description) or obviously (it's a doujin or something obvious) justify its existence should be removed. People who use pools as their own private favorites should not be allowed to do so.

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  • Shinjidude

    Alternatively, if it's not too much strain on the server, we could have a third type of pool that is both private and invisible to all but the creator. I don't know if this is something we would want to support, but it'd serve the people who want different types of favorites, and yet keep the public listing free of junk. I'd probably name this type private, and rename the current private to protected. That way we have three levels:

    Private: Only you can modify, only you can see
    Protected: Only you can modify, everyone can see
    Public: Anyone can modify or see

    Just an idea.

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  • piespy

    It could work if private pools never show up in the image header, not even for the owner. They can still get there from their pools page though.

    Otherwise it would mean that the post page can't be cached, because the pool header would (potentially) be different for each user. At least for images that are part of any private pool.

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  • 葉月

    I second the private pools motion. There's not enough granularity in the favs mechanism, and extensions and generalisations have been proposed in the past. As for HTML generation, I believe it should be possible to fast-path the common case and only slow-path the infrequent accesses by pool owners.

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  • Snesso

    Didn't want to make a new topic for it so i'm using this one. I just found another (i think) useless pool, pool #430 called Hyakko... it doesnt really have a point, since it just has random Hyakko-related pictures in there.

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  • parasol

    Kayako said:
    "Erofen Lied"

    That's an Elfen Lied doujin. All the pages are deleted, so the pool looks empty but isn't.

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  • jxh2154

    Snesso said: Didn't want to make a new topic for it so i'm using this one. I just found another (i think) useless pool, pool #430 called Hyakko... it doesnt really have a point, since it just has random Hyakko-related pictures in there.

    Deleted. Pools that just duplicate a tag are indeed pointless.

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  • jxh2154

    Kayako said: In that case, the "Tribadism" pool (pool #418) should be deleted.

    Deleted.

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  • roastbeefy

    Personal favorites pools:
    pool #254 - "babes"
    pool #268 - "My faves"
    pool #272 - "Random Pool 1"
    pool #403 - "7"
    pool #131 - "cats" - Images seem random
    pool #103 - "sexiest ladies"

    Empty pools:
    pool #124 - "Kagamin Bocchi" - all posts deleted
    pool #384 - "Erofen Lied" - all posts deleted
    pool #400 - "Return to this later"
    pool #393 - "dragon25"
    pool #357 - "SlamD"
    pool #361 - "touhou"
    pool #233 - "Eroero Daisakusen de Arimasu"
    pool #263 - "glansjob"
    pool #247 - "Need translation"
    pool #222 - "memegui's test pool"
    pool #229 - "uwaki tsuma"
    pool #153 - "休暇楽しみ〔おごり〕"
    pool #151 - "Anonymous"
    pool #113 - "CDA Haman cosplay"

    Otherwise pointless:
    pool #414 - "Evangelion 'Re-Take'" - only 1 post
    pool #279 - "Broken Samples Infirmary" - could someone explain this to me?
    pool #348 - "RO-S" - It would make more sense to come up with a character tag.
    pool #365 - "Last Blade Official Art" - All images are tagged last_blade official_art.
    pool #98 - "Gym Storage Room" - All images are tagged gym_storeroom
    pool #244 - "love hina" - only 1 post
    pool #289 - "Range Murata - futuregraph" - All images are tagged range_murata futuregraph
    pool #52 - "Futurhythm" - All images are tagged futurhythm

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  • Solamarle

    Shinjidude said:
    Private: Only you can modify, only you can see
    Protected: Only you can modify, everyone can see
    Public: Anyone can modify or see

    Actually, I've been wanting something to mark pictures I want to get translating at some indeterminate point in the future, and this would work very well. It would also help keep my Firefox tab count below 100 ...

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  • 7HS

    roastbeefy said:
    pool #279 - "Broken Samples Infirmary" - could someone explain this to me?

    If you have "Show Image Samples" turned on in your profile options, as I do, these images do not display. Not pointless.

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  • jxh2154

    Thanks for going through those.

    Deleted:
     pool #124 - "Kagamin Bocchi"
     pool #384 - "Erofen Lied"
     pool #400 - "Return to this later"
     pool #393 - "dragon25"
     pool #357 - "SlamD"
     pool #361 - "touhou"
     pool #233 - "Eroero Daisakusen de Arimasu"
     pool #263 - "glansjob"
     pool #247 - "Need translation"
     pool #222 - "memegui's test pool"
     pool #229 - "uwaki tsuma"
     pool #153 - "休暇楽しみ〔おごり〕"
     pool #151 - "Anonymous"
     pool #113 - "CDA Haman cosplay"
     pool #414 - "Evangelion 'Re-Take'"
     pool #98 - "Gym Storage Room"
     pool #244 - "love hina"
     pool #254 - "babes"
     pool #268 - "My faves"
     pool #272 - "Random Pool 1"
     pool #131 - "cats"
     pool #103 - "sexiest ladies"
     pool #403 - "7" - I was going to wait and give the creator a chance to favorite them first (since it's so gigantic...) but looks like the user added things for a month and then disappeared, so away it goes.

    Not deleted:
     pool #279 - "Broken Samples Infirmary" - have confirmed this serves a purpose.
     pool #348 - "RO-S" - We can delete it, but someone should go tag them with the proper character tag first, then we'll nuke it.

    Discuss:
     pool #289 - "Range Murata - futuregraph" / pool #52 - "Futurhythm" - I think we can keep these. Artbook scans like this really should be pooled, and usually are. Just so happens someone tagged them as well, which they usually don't. So the tagging is more redundant than the pool, so if we have to remove either it'd be the tag.
     pool #365 - "Last Blade Official Art" - Not sure what the deal is with this one.

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  • roastbeefy

    Agreed with everything. Succubus_(ragnarok_online) is a bit long, but it could work for the character tag. I really see no reason for the Last Blade Pool, and it would make more sense to clear the tags for Range's art books, though I see no real harm in keeping both the pool and the tags other than being redundant.

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  • Elfenus

    roastbeefy said:
    Succubus_(ragnarok_online) is a bit long, but it could work for the character tag.

    Maybe Succubus_(RO)?

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  • jxh2154

    roastbeefy said: Succubus_(ragnarok_online) is a bit long, but it could work for the character tag.

    Looks like we have three RO classes with qualifiers:
    archer_(ragnarok_online)
    assassin_(ro)
    knight_(ragnarok_online)

    I think succubus_(ragnarok_online) is okay. I'll alias succubus_(ro) to it. Think I'll also alias assassin_(ro) to assassin_(ragnarok_online) it for consistency.

    But anyway, I don't want to get into a large scale RO tag discussion, so let's limit ourselves to succubus for now.

    The succubus alias is live now, and I think I have them all tagged. Deleting the pool.

    Edit: Errr, or I could have tagged them all with a typo. Let me go fix that...

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  • 葉月

    jxh2154 said:
    Discuss:
     pool #289 - "Range Murata - futuregraph" / pool #52 - "Futurhythm" - I think we can keep these. Artbook scans like this really should be pooled, and usually are. Just so happens someone tagged them as well, which they usually don't. So the tagging is more redundant than the pool, so if we have to remove either it'd be the tag.

    Agreed, book publications should be pooled. I wouldn't remove the tags, though, they serve separate purposes in this case. Pools are for convenient browsing, tags are for searches.

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