Touhou Cannonball May Be Dead, But We Did Get Alternate Costumes to Implicate

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create implication cirno_(yukata) -> cirno
create implication koakuma_(yukata) -> koakuma
create implication izayoi_sakuya_(flower_viewing) -> izayoi_sakuya
create implication remilia_scarlet_(yukata) -> remilia_scarlet
create implication flandre_scarlet_(yukata) -> flandre_scarlet
create implication chen_(zodiac_race) -> chen
create implication konpaku_youmu_(wa_maid) -> konpaku_youmu
create implication yakumo_ran_(zodiac_race) -> yakumo_ran
create implication yakumo_yukari_(zodiac_race) -> yakumo_yukari
create implication reisen_udongein_inaba_(flower_viewing) -> reisen_udongein_inaba
create implication shameimaru_aya_(flower_viewing) -> shameimaru_aya
create implication kochiya_sanae_(wa_maid) -> kochiya_sanae
create implication imaizumi_kagerou_(zodiac_race) -> imaizumi_kagerou

So Touhou Cannonball is very dead. However, it did give us several official alternate costumes along the lines of the ones throughout Touhou Lost Word, that are worth tagging, I think. So it shouldn't hurt to have these, no?

I'm still on the fence on tagging these as official alternate costumes...

Yeah, Touhou is a strange one, is it not? Games like Cannonball here and Lost Word are not technically "official" games in the same way as is typical for the use of the official alternate costume. However, gacha games like these have a variety of different costumes, and I do think that does beg the question of the applicability of this tag.

My basic assumption for this tag here is to treat the depictions as "officially" alternate costumes, if only to distinguish Remilia in her Cannonball yukata costume from the countless artwork depicting her in a yukata (which would just be an alternate costume). But I can see why some people may not agree with that definition though. It's definitely a strange case here, these Touhou gacha games. They're not "official" games, no, but I can't help but fall back on our general rules regarding their alternate costumes all the same.

Personally I don't think they're any more official than the alternate costumes in something like Koumajou Densetsu are, gacha or not. To me the only official games are the numbered Touhou games, the rest ultimately isn't and any costumes from them shouldn't be considered official alternate costumes. That said since it's a gacha it's essentially impossible to use chartag + copytag because there's so many different ones, so having chartags is unavoidable, but they shouldn't be considered official imo.

Anything other than from the actual games or manga should not be considered official imo. People can just filter by the copyright of the gacha game + alternate costume

BUR #24285 has been rejected.

mass update touhou_cannonball official_alternate_costume -> touhou_cannonball alternate_costume -official_alternate_costume

It seems my definition of official alternate costume was a lot looser than it should've been (at least as far as Touhou is concerned). My bad guys. Let's just go ahead and do this then, and be done with it.

BUR #24293 has been rejected.

mass update touhou_lostword official_alternate_costume -> touhou_lostword alternate_costume -official_alternate_costume

For LW too (after topic #26608 gets approved)

Astolfo said:

Personally I don't think they're any more official than the alternate costumes in something like Koumajou Densetsu are, gacha or not. To me the only official games are the numbered Touhou games, the rest ultimately isn't and any costumes from them shouldn't be considered official alternate costumes. That said since it's a gacha it's essentially impossible to use chartag + copytag because there's so many different ones, so having chartags is unavoidable, but they shouldn't be considered official imo.

Alixiron said:

Anything other than from the actual games or manga should not be considered official imo. People can just filter by the copyright of the gacha game + alternate costume

We do consider art taken from fan games as official art, though. I don't entirely agree with the idea that any art automatically qualifies as "official" where tagging is concerned if it came from a game, but I understand that we don't otherwise have a means of differentiating art used in the game from fanart of the game, besides making and maintaining a pool for every game that releases.

I imagine it would be counterintuitive for some to say a work of art is "official" but the contents of the art aren't. On the other hand, the line between actual official art of a series and "official" art of a fangame is getting blurrier, at least when discussing Touhou.

blindVigil said:

We do consider art taken from fan games as official art, though. I don't entirely agree with the idea that any art automatically qualifies as "official" where tagging is concerned if it came from a game, but I understand that we don't otherwise have a means of differentiating art used in the game from fanart of the game, besides making and maintaining a pool for every game that releases.

We do? I've had it removed from those kinds of posts in the past, post #5004322 and post #5004324 for example.

Unbreakable said:

We do? I've had it removed from those kinds of posts in the past, post #5004322 and post #5004324 for example.

I was remembering topic #19204 but for some reason remembered being outvoted when I suggested fangames shouldn't be counted as official art, but the disagreement was actually with licensed games.

That said, to correct myself, we do apparently consider licensed games to count as official art, if something like the 37 pages of touhou_cannonball official_art is anything to go by.

Fair enough.

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