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Alias cross_hair_ornament -> x_hair_ornament..?

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Lloyd Dunamis

BUR #7976 has been rejected.

create alias cross_hair_ornament -> x_hair_ornament

Apparently, these two coexist atm. According to the wiki histories, cross hair ornament's (count 2039 atm) was made first, but people seems to have preferred the arguably simpler x hair ornament (32522).

'Could be the other way around, aliasing x_ to cross_.

I dunno which tag to prefer; I'm OK with either.
Eitherway I prefer cross_'s wiki description to be merged with x_'s examples & tag reference, or something.

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Talulah said:

I went through cross_hair_ornament and like 40% of the tag was mistagged x_hair_ornaments. I don't know if latin_cross_hair_ornament is the greatest name but it should definitely be changed to something else.

You could have at least waited until we made some kind of decision before making sweeping changes. :/

Not every cross has uneven arms like a Latin_cross. When I skimmed through the tag earlier, it was clear that a large fraction of cross hair ornaments were based on the Greek_cross or iron_cross. Hair ornaments like in post #4019586 and post #4809270 shouldn't be tagged x_hair_ornament any more so than any of the other cross hair ornaments.

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Lloyd Dunamis

Guaro said:
Cross: post #4914134
X: post #4919375

They're visually distinctive to me.

Oh. Ooohh, derp, I was the one confused then... It's the ambiguity of the recent or so taggings, and the name itself (cross being equated to x commonly, and then some) that added to the confusion, too. My bad.

Please excuse the following rambling part. Feel free to skip it as I've just been through some definition/interpretation crisis here.
Otherwise, I'm already alright with not going through with this aliasing. This time, I wish to continue discussion maybe for other possible tag names (or a better name?) for cross_ x_ these tags, if applicable. Dunno what else I could contribute though...

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iridescent_slime said:
I think there's a pretty big difference between hair ornaments shaped like symbolic crosses (post #4509276) and those that are just a pair of crossed bars (post #4917346). Ideally we'd be able to keep them separated, but getting everyone to respect the difference would be a challenge.

nonamethanks said:
Yeah my understanding too is that x hair ornament is for separate crossed bars, while cross hair ornament is for crosses as individual objects.

These, actually.

So what I'm seeing here: for the x_hair_ornament, they're like...two hair ornament straps, wrapped around hair & cross each other hence forming the x; (as exampled, post #4919375 and wiki examples post #730374 post #2514544)
The cross_hair_ornament are like...solid hair ornaments already molded/shaped into x, +, or a + with a longer foot (or † / cross. English names are weird).

For now, I guess cross_ would be ambiguous for:

    • the cross-shaped (†) & other kinds of x & +;
    • clipped or however else it's attached to hair, instead of wrapping around hair;
    • regardless what kind of latin/german/iron cross it's shaped after, otherwise just two generic bars already welded together;
    • that aren't two (or one long, post #4922193) hair ornament straps wrapped around hair crossing each other to form an x (which the x_ is allegedly for).

Wait, by that definition, the earlier x_-exampled post #4917346 shouldn't be x_ if they're x-bars hairpin instead of straps.
...But they could not be straps like too; 'could be two hairclips, and clips generally have to wrap around hair for it to be "clipped" in the first place.

Alot of interpretation there, pardon.
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