BUR #7303 has been approved by @nonamethanks.
create alias floaties -> inflatable_armbands
Common names for inflatable armbands.
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BUR #7303 has been approved by @nonamethanks.
create alias floaties -> inflatable_armbands
Common names for inflatable armbands.
Talulah said:
Water wings is intentionally not aliased because of the ambiguity, if you'd take a glance at the wiki.
Since the term "water wings" is so widely used for inflatable armbands, autocomplete will show the alias, and liquid_wings only has 11 posts, I don't think we need to worry about mistags.
AngryZapdos said:
Since the term "water wings" is so widely used for inflatable armbands, autocomplete will show the alias, and liquid_wings only has 11 posts, I don't think we need to worry about mistags.
nonamethanks said:
Looking at this, there have only been three users who tagged liquid_wings as water_wings in all of Danbooru history. That's hardly a problem - if this alias is approved then the only difference that the single mistag in the next 5 years will result in is that someone needs to remove inflatable_armbands from the post rather than water_wings.
That's because anyone else using the tag would've been immediately greeted with the warning about creating a new tag and would've removed the tag, which if done within an hour does not leave post versions. That warning will not show up if the tag already exists, even if it's the wrong one.
This looks to me like one of those misguided aliases that will have to be removed anyway in a few months once the tag becomes flooded with mistags.
Floaties is too ambiguous a term to use as an alias, because it isn't always used to mean armbands. Part of the reason I personally nuked that tag in the first place is because people were using it for things like flotation belts: post #1783193, post #2673626.
nonamethanks said:
That's because anyone else using the tag would've been immediately greeted with the warning about creating a new tag and would've removed the tag, which if done within an hour does not leave post versions. That warning will not show up if the tag already exists, even if it's the wrong one.
This looks to me like one of those misguided aliases that will have to be removed anyway in a few months once the tag becomes flooded with mistags.
And yet, only one of the mistags featuring liquid wings was made before the tag was cleaned up. Every other mistag has somehow been made after the tag was wiped from the site, when it would have triggered that "new tag created" message. I don't really have an explanation for this, other than that I once again have put too much faith in the tagging of the masses.
I've updated the BUR to remove the water_wings alias.
iridescent_slime said:
Floaties is too ambiguous a term to use as an alias, because it isn't always used to mean armbands. Part of the reason I personally nuked that tag in the first place is because people were using it for things like flotation belts: post #1783193, post #2673626.
Is that sort of thing ever given the plural diminutive "-ies"? I'd think that sort of thing would simply be called "floats" or "pool_floats".
Shinjidude said:
Is that sort of thing ever given the plural diminutive "-ies"? I'd think that sort of thing would simply be called "floats" or "pool_floats".
I'm sort of water-averse so I can't speak for the majority of folks who use that word. But there's a Pool Floaties section on Amazon that is full of all kinds of pool toys and swim rings and only a few scattered examples of what we tag as inflatable_armbands. It clearly isn't limited to just one particular type of flotation aid, at least in marketing terms.
iridescent_slime said:
I'm sort of water-averse so I can't speak for the majority of folks who use that word. But there's a Pool Floaties section on Amazon that is full of all kinds of pool toys and swim rings and only a few scattered examples of what we tag as inflatable_armbands. It clearly isn't limited to just one particular type of flotation aid, at least in marketing terms.
I'm not sure if maybe things are localized differently for you, but if I follow your link, I get "pool floaties" as the search term, but all of the categories are labeled as "float" or "floats", as are 64/72 (89%) of the products on the first page. There are 5 products labeled "floaties" at the bottom of the search, and three labeled "floatie" singular, but they're by far in the minority. I think that's decent evidence of "floaties" not being a particularly common term for inflatable pool toys in general. If you ask a person what the safety arm float things are in general (in my experience at least), you'll hear "water wings" (which we decided not to use due to cases like Lapis Lazuli (Steven Universe) having literal wings of water), and then also commonly "floaties". You'll absolutely never hear a person call them "inflatable armbands" in the real world. Language is ambiguous and we'll never get things to fit perfectly into 1:1 categories.
Just curious, is there any reason we can't use the tag water_wings_(swimming) or water_wings_(swim_aid) for the utility alias?
I'd think it would solve problem with liquid_wings while still retaining the meaning of the tag.
Flummoxen said:
Just curious, is there any reason we can't use the tag water_wings_(swimming) or water_wings_(swim_aid) for the utility alias?
I'd think it would solve problem with liquid_wings while still retaining the meaning of the tag.
I suggested that in Discord but nobody bit. If we really need these utility aliases that would probably be the best choice.
BUR #7398 has been approved by @nonamethanks.
create alias water_wings_(swim_aid) -> inflatable_armbands
As above.
I don't see much evidence of floaties having been mistakenly used for other objects, but we can always undo this alias if it becomes the case. It's a small tag so I see no harm for now in approving it.
The bulk update request #7398 (forum #197590) has been approved by @nonamethanks.
The bulk update request #7303 (forum #197169) has been approved by @nonamethanks.