What to do with frottage (and related tags)

Previous topics
topic #6629 forum #19526
The frottage wiki has always bothered me because it's too specific.
From the wiki

For tagging purposes, use this tag when one person's crotch is rubbing against another person's body, except for genital-on-genital contact (use grinding, buttjob, tribadism, bulges touching, or penises touching for this). Use crotch rub for rubbing against inanimate objects.

I don't think anyone will follow these rules without checking the wiki especially the exception for genital-on-genital contact.
We also apparently have dry humping and humping which are for clothed sexual situations but aren't mentioned in the frottage wiki.

I'm now questioning what things like post #4092731 should be tagged since it seems I've been using imminent penetration wrongly on clothed characters. Users on the discord suggested dry humping and bulge press. Thoughts?

Now here's what I propose:-

• Making frottage the umbrella tag just like Evazion proposed 7 years ago forum #99596. The tag name is too ambiguous.
• Tags like imminent penetration and buttjob should mention that they should only be used for unclothed situations and point to their clothed variants such as dry humping to help prevent mistags.

BUR #7213 has been approved by @nonamethanks.

create implication bulge_press -> bulge
remove implication bulges_touching -> bulge
create implication bulges_touching -> bulge_press

In an attempt to make bulge press usable for things like post #4092731
Should there be a specific tag for this? Or is dry humping fine as is mentioned by the grinding wiki?

I'm not the most confident person when it comes to creating wikis, so feedback would be appreciated.
Bulge press

The act of pressing one's bulge against something. If it's against an object use with humping, if it's another person (especially against their ass) use with dry humping.

Against object examples: post #4716052 post #4656536
Against person examples: post #4092731 post #4192125

I want to say that two bulges can be touching without being pressed together, but I guess bulge press suffers from the same issue when it's just touching an object, and I couldn't find any example that didn't fit.

The bulk update request #7213 (forum #196689) has been approved by @nonamethanks.

Admiral_Pectoral said:

In an attempt to make bulge press usable for things like post #4092731
Should there be a specific tag for this? Or is dry humping fine as is mentioned by the grinding wiki?

Reflecting upon this, I don't feel like tagging a common thing like post #4092731 only non-specific tags like bulge press or dry humping is a great idea (especially when the bulge pressing isn't always that visible).

We need more bulge specific tags anyway if we plan to keep separating it from the numerous penis tags, so after coming across some specific tags like penis on ass, bulge to ass is the name I thought of for now.

BUR #7415 has been approved by @nonamethanks.

create alias bulge_on_ass -> bulge_to_ass
create implication bulge_to_ass -> bulge

Will populate if the BUR is approved.
Wiki draft

A bulge on top of, or next to someone's ass. Often seen with dry humping or with sexual foreplay before anal sex.

Use Imminent anal and penis on ass when nude.

Related tags:

• bulge press
• erection under clothes

@Admiral_Pectoral please populate the tag before, otherwise there's a chance it'll just be autoremoved by the system.

nonamethanks said:

@Admiral_Pectoral please populate the tag before, otherwise there's a chance it'll just be autoremoved by the system.

Yes sir. I’ll do it asap

Bulge to ass is now populated. However I came across cases like
post #4471530
post #4036959
post #3532394
post #4181013
where the situation is very similar, except you can't see the bulge or ass clearly enough. Should these posts be tagged just dry humping or something?
I feel like the wiki should clarify how to use it and what alternatives are out there.

I'm also unsure if dry humping is only to be used when both characters are clothed, or if only one is sufficient too. The wiki is very minimalistic.
Tags like clothed male nude male could be mentioned in the wikis as well if that's the case.

ugh I feel kinda lost between all these different tags to be honest.

BUR #7698 has been rejected.

create alias penis_on_ass -> penis_to_ass

Before I forget, this should be the nude equivalent to bulge to ass.

I thought about asking for this

create implication penis_to_ass -> imminent_anal

Does it sound okay? There's probably cases where the ass is not nude, so I thought I'd ask before I consider adding it to the BUR.

penis on ass can also apply to after anal or buttjob, so no.

Good point.
Any thoughts on the dry humping bit?

I don't think penis on ass -> penis to ass is a good idea. The tag is specifically for a penis on top of an ass, just like penis on pussy. "penis to ass" can be all kinds of different things instead.

The bulk update request #7698 (forum #199025) has been rejected by @Admiral_Pectoral.

This bulk update request is pending automatic rejection in 5 days.

The bulk update request #7415 (forum #197690) has been approved by @nonamethanks.