Danbooru

Tag Suggestion: composition tag between cowboy_shot and full_body

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As the title says.

It seems to me it's the only real gap in the composition of a body in an image, and it's a problem I've run into tagging enough to warrant something. Face covers head shots well, portrait showing just a little of the upper body, upper body from the waist up, and cowboy shot from crotch level to about knee level up... But past that there's only full body, which requires the whole subject to be in frame. This means there's not really a good tag to use when an artist cuts the suject off at the knee, calf, or ankle. This can also be a problem when one limb is out of frame but the rest of the body is in, which also diqualifies an image for full body by its wiki.

Examples:
- post #2265449; the image's subject is all in the image except her right leg from mid-calf down.
- post #2273200; again we have all of one of the subject's legs (largely disqualifying it for cowboy shot) yet most of the other leg out of frame.
- post #2271040; the legs here are equally exposed, but clearly between what would be right to tag for eith CS or FB.
- post #2270670; clearly too much foot/calf in the picture to tag as CS, but also too much cut off to tag as FB.

And that's just pulling very recent examples.

As to the tag itself... That I am unsure of. "almost_full_body" or "nearly_full_body" are thoughts, and one could be aliased to the other. But I realize those could have problems either for being long or for referencing another tag rather than being its own. "3/4_shot" or "three_quarter_shot" came to mind, but those are used for the cowboy shot in other media.

But regardless of the name a tag to use would be nice.

Maybe instead of having a bunch of unrelated terms for our composition shots, we could standardize on fractional ontology. Using the human head of an adult as the standard unit (far right picture), the following are the equivalent mappings:

1/8_shot = face
1/4_shot = portrait
3/8_shot = bust
1/2_shot = bust or waist and up shot
5/8_shot = cowboy shot or groin and up shot
3/4_shot = cowboy shot or knee and up shot
7/8_shot = calf and up shot
full_shot = full_body

This, I believe would provide a bit more standardization and be easier to tag since the terms are all similar. We could also formalize how things are rounded (either up or down), like if the shot cuts off just the person's feet, than it would now be a 7/8 shot.

For the cases where only the feet and up are visible to a certain point, we could reverse it, i.e.:

reverse_1/8_shot, reverse_1/4_shot, etc. There is of course, no reverse_full_shot, as that would just be equal to full shot.

For pictures that have a combination of both, such as the head out of frame tagged posts, than both naming conventions would apply, e.g. a picture that shows the knees and up with the head out of the frame would be tagged and 3/4_shot and reverse_7/8_shot.

Thoughts?

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I'd be fine with a more robust system like that.

Though I can't see how that wouldn't be anything but an extreme amount of work... Even aliasing some of that wouldn't cut into the man hours much.

If people wanted to do that, I'd help how I could.

"Limb_out_of_frame" / "limbs_out_of_frame" could be very useful for some of pictutes, but I feel like it might be less so for most. Probably wouldn't want it overlapping with the existing tags; IE needing to imply "limb_out_of_frame" to every cowboy_shot or upper_body shot just because the legs are out of frame. And it seems like an inappropriate tag for images where just a foot is out of frame or such. But where everything but one limb is in the frame it could definitely work.

Obviously I mostly say that since, to me at least, a "limb" refers to an arm or a leg, rather than a hand or foot. "Appendage_out_of_frame" for just the hands or feet seems more appropriate for that. Again, just as to how I understand the words used.

On the other other hand... that is an idea as well; Rather than tagging what is in frame, tag it like head_out_of_frame for legs in general and alias the existing tags to those. IE, upper_body and profile could simply be a catch all "legs_out_of_frame". While cowboy_shot and images with just feet, ankles, and calves cut out could become "legs_partially_out_of_frame". Or such. Then leave face for focusing on that and none of the rest of the body, all full_body for the whole thing in frame.

..or just make a new tag for the in between like the topic suggests. Just an idea for another way to go about it.

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