Tag Alias: yakiimo -> yam

Aliasing yakiimo -> yam.

Reason: From what I can tell they are used for the same thing. Is there any need for different tags here?

Yakiimo are baked or roasted sweet potatoes, not yams. Sweet potatoes and yams are not the same thing.

sgcdonmai said:
Sweet potatoes and yams are not the same thing.

Well, I got that from looking over the Wikipedia entry, but it seems the term yam can be used for sweet potatoes anyway, and they are aliased already. Do we even have any images of the "actual" yam?

sgcdonmai said:
Yakiimo are baked or roasted sweet potatoes, not yams. Sweet potatoes and yams are not the same thing.

This...depends on where you live.

That being said, we should use the Japanese definition.

I think Implications is better than Aliases
because yakiimo is a kind of cooking of sweet potato (yam).

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sgcdonmai said:
Sweet potatoes and yams are not the same thing.

But sweet_potato is redirected to yam.

Is it possible to repurpose yakiimo to refer to the actual roasting of yams, with the autumn leaves and whatnot?

post #687117 shows what I mean.

EB said:
Do we even have any images of the "actual" yam?

We either have an extremely low number or no actual images of yams (at least under the "yam" tag). Given the context of the images (generally fall and winter), as well as how they're eating them in a common fashion, and making a rough judgement on the appearance (based on what I could find on google), it would suggest the vast majority of images under the "yam" tag are of sweet potatoe, especially of the Japanese Sweet Potato (purplish outside). It seems that some also called it a "Japanese Yam," which causes it apparently to be confused with the Japanese Mountain Yam (an actual yam).

NWF_Renim said:
We either have an extremely low number or no actual images of yams (at least under the "yam" tag).

You mean this? post #324676

Yeah, but it has a completely different appearance from the sweet potatoes that we're also tagging yam. It should also be noted how different their usage of it is, than with the majority under the "yam" tag.

This came up 2 or 3 years ago on the forums and we (I) went with just tagging sweet_potato as yam. Yams in American English are exactly synonymous with sweet potatoes.

Hillside_Moose said: Is it possible to repurpose yakiimo to refer to the actual roasting of yams, with the autumn leaves and whatnot?

I say go for it.

I'm of the opinion that sweet potato should not be aliased to yam, especially given that we right now seriously lack any significant number of images of real yams. The context in which actual yams will come up will likely be different enough to truly warrant and justify a separate tag from sweet potato. As it stands, probably 80%-90% (if not more) of "yam" images will be also tagged yakiimo.

If we're going to fail and still associate them with yams, then we might as well go the extra mile in fail by having yam alias to sweet potato instead.

I'm not going to disconnect two words used synonymously by virtually all our users and American English as a whole for the sake of maybe 2 images in the history of danbooru.

My opinion is not strong on it, but I think I agree with NWF Renim that the main tag should be sweet_potato instead of yam. So, we can reverse the alias, and for those rare images we could make a separate yam_(sensible_qualifier_goes_here) tag.

And whatever is done, yakiimo needs to at least be implicated afterward.

EB said:
My opinion is not strong on it, but I think I agree with NWF Renim that the main tag should be sweet_potato instead of yam. So, we can reverse the alias, and for those rare images we could make a separate yam_(sensible_qualifier_goes_here) tag.

Reversing it is fine, disconnecting is not. As you note, if there's even a reason to tag the other yams we can separate them out accordingly.