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Perhaps he should have read and understood the X (formerly Twitter) terms of service. Not engaging in self-sabotaging provocateur behavior would also have been smart. I like orenji's art, generally, but this whole affair was very dumb. Anglophone people in general need to understand that this kind of behavior, namely trying to participate in meme culture via phrases like cunny, child gf et al. will not work in your favor if your happen to enjoy any kind risque subculture art. What you'll accomplish is drawing unnecessary attention and getting niche spaces stomped out, exactly like what has happened to booth, fanbox, pixiv request and is currently happening to getchu and dlsite. Twitter (subsequently X) accounts of loli artist have been getting actively nuked since 2018, how about developing some sense of self-preservation? Do you never stop to think why eastern creators (ie, the ones creating the good works) do not behave this way?

They got suspended because they got mass reported, that's all. I can guarantee you a real person wasn't involved in the suspension at all, nor will one be involved if the artist appeals the suspension. Loli/shota content gets posted to twitter all the time, no one cares until crusaders start filling mass reports and the moderation bots handle the rest. I'm not even sure it violates Twitter's rules. The exact rules:

  • visual depictions of a child engaging in sexually explicit or sexually suggestive acts;
  • illustrated, computer-generated or other forms of realistic depictions of a human child in a sexually explicit context, or engaging in sexually explicit acts;
  • sexualized commentaries about or directed at a known or unknown minor; and
  • links to third-party sites that host child sexual exploitation material.

The second points specifies realistic depictions, and the full set of rules make repeated mention of "child sexual exploitation material" which loli/shota is not. No one ever gets banned for saying degenerate things about BA characters, even though just talking about sexualizing children is enough. The only reason any of this stuff gets people in trouble is because people report it, and moderation isn't handled by real people, not that I trust a real person would make the distinction between fiction and reality either.

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    blindVigil said:

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    People have been trying to semantically wrangle the rules on that site for years. The first point does cover stylized depictions, even if they do not directly spell it out. This is why Japanese artists have been getting suspended for years, this is commonly known information to them. The ones that avoid suspension generally rely on security by obscurity. The ones that don't simply evade suspension continuously, since the site makes it easy to do so.
    https://togetter.com/li/1322732
    https://togetter.com/search?q=%E3%83%AD%E3%83%AA+%E5%87%8D%E7%B5%90&t=q#gsc.tab=0&gsc.q=%E3%83%AD%E3%83%AA%20%E5%87%8D%E7%B5%90&gsc.page=1
    It goes back as far as 2015, went into overdrive in 2018 and in 2019 the terms were officially changed to include visual depictions.
    I don't understand why people insist on playing language games when the practical reality of the situation can be observed and easily understood. Ties very well into my point about lacking a sense of self-preservation.

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    Orenji got suspended less than 7 days after this post blew up on twitter. Truly a 'more money more problems' moment. He should have set his account to private the second his post made it to KYM, and then just lay low for a week or two.

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    Blank_User said:

    The same points have been made about fictional violence in media, but most people don't really seem to care anymore and gamers have always defended violence's place in video games, so it's still hypocritical to argue against loli/shota art and not argue against fictional violence based only on those points. The only difference is that the former is more geared toward getting people off, which makes some people more willing to cross the line from "This is gross and I won't look at it" to "You're gross for liking it and I will judge you" or even "They're gross for promoting it and should be shut down/arrested." The above complaint of "literal pedofiles (sic)" is a good example of this.

    No, it's not the same.
    The argument on violence in video games is that video games sculpted violent behavior.
    loli argument is that pedos look for loli. The cause and effect relations are completely flipped.
    This is why I consider the defense of it so disingenuous. It's a deliberate misreading of the basic premise to justify their desired outcome. Video game violence argument got the flak for doing the same thing, and so should the loli defense.

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    Truebie said:

    no, she is not.
    In fact she is worse now because she thinks she is better than others and whacks others who she thinks is worse than her.

    The problem wasn't that she thinks she's better than men.
    The problem was that she was attracted to something "men" would. Then the representation cut to "men" ogling at something while she doesn't.

    It's a joke.
    A bad joke and not a funny one at that.
    But it shouldn't guarant this kind of reaction.

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    I know there's a pool named "Mixed Signals" for what Ranni is doing here, frowning as a doll but with her other face smiling happily, but does it have a specific tag for when the person's normal attitude doesn't tell us much about her feelings and you have to rely about something else? I'm thinking like Miyako Yoshika's forehead amulet, or Ranni's second face.
    Sorry if I'm not clear.

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    FRien said:

    I know there's a pool named "Mixed Signals" for what Ranni is doing here, frowning as a doll but with her other face smiling happily, but does it have a specific tag for when the person's normal attitude doesn't tell us much about her feelings and you have to rely about something else? I'm thinking like Miyako Yoshika's forehead amulet, or Ranni's second face.
    Sorry if I'm not clear.

    In general, we have expressive_* tags for that. Expressive object would be appropriate for Miyako Yoshika, but I don't think it would apply to Ranni.

    This post reminds me of Haruno Sakura's inner self that appeared often in early Naruto arcs. We don't seem to have many posts of this; post #274277 was the only one I could find. It's tagged with dual persona, but I don't know if that would work here either.

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    Looks like Hookbang Proto prefers reptiles over amphibians judging by the turtle. And look! It's Pancake Lily!

    Seems like Grand-nun's efforts are well appreciated by the local populace. As expected of the faithful people around the time of... uh... I still have no clue, actually.

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    Star: "My strength comes from my mind and the muscles I trained so hard for."

    Clumsy Nun: "Oh, god she is stopping being Mrs. Nice Nun and wants to punch us to the stars!"
    Spicy Nun: "How to be a good girl... Step 1: Worship Kayne West? Who wrote this?!"

    Froggy Nun: "Why is this so heavy?"
    Sheep Nun: "A bit too light for me."

    I want to see the arm-wrestling contest between Sheep and Star now.

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    Monsieur_Safior said:

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    Plus nothing stop GW to include male into the Sister of Silence.

    Either change the name or just say that can be sister regarless of the gender.

    Like the Banshee for the eldar who are mainly woman, but it's was establish that men can be part of the squad.

    Male nulls exist anyway, you wouldn't need to change the name either, why would it mater to a galaxy-wide empire in the very far future what today's culture around ganders is.
    I doubt anyone in the empire would care what the person that's banishing a demon back into the warp's genitalia looks like, or would argue the semantics of what their order is called.

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    Steak said:

    Not that I think it'd matter to you, but SoS are pretty much joined at the hip of the Custodes. They're never going to be as popular, nor as well developed. As such, making them distinct and flavorful is the best way to make them stand out. And no, being psychic nulls doesn't make them stand out. Quite the opposite in fact.

    'Their mere presence making demon's heads explode makes them not stand out, having a pussy however...'

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    FRien said:

    Sadly typical from Games Workshop, they keep retconning "small stuff", but they don't realize that they're fucking up their lore big time with it. Custodes all being males was used in my circle of friends to "prove" that female Space Marines really were impossible, and that it wasn't just the Emperor not trying hard enough. Now that female Custodes are a thing, I really wonder how Games Workshop can justify female Space Marines not being a thing. And don't get me started on the Sisters of Battles, they're "just" highly trained warrior monks, they aren't the barely humans that the Space Marines are.
    For fuck's sake, it's the same shit with Ollanius Pious, he used to be just a man standing against fucking Horus, the first of the Primarchs, the Champion of Chaos, and what Failbaddon wishes he was. Then Games Workshop made him a space marines, then a terminator, then a custode, then finally an immortal, when him being just a man, just one man, was just what the story needed to prove how far Horus was gone, that he would deliberaly kill what was as dangerous as a newborn to him. But no, a normal marine wasn't enough, he had to be bigger and stronger, making him more of a threat to Horus, and making Horus' murder of him less of a gratuitous act and more of an actual self-defense.

    Warhammer is wasted on Games Workshop, be it Fantasy or 40,000.

    go outside

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    CookieLoop said:

    'Their mere presence making demon's heads explode makes them not stand out, having a pussy however...'

    It's not rocket science. Doing something > doing nothing. I'll take a shining beacon of faith over an off switch any day.

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    CookieLoop said:

    Male nulls exist anyway, you wouldn't need to change the name either, why would it mater to a galaxy-wide empire in the very far future what today's culture around ganders is.
    I doubt anyone in the empire would care what the person that's banishing a demon back into the warp's genitalia looks like, or would argue the semantics of what their order is called.

    Something like knowing their name will yield an advantage. Semantics matter quite a bit in this kind of battle.

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