couple tag -- usage expand for yaoi/yuri

Basically, as pointed out in post #1182727 by SHUN0 the wiki for couple states:

"For two people in seemingly romantic situations, canon or not.

Please Note
Tag should be used when BOTH PARTNERS are present and in view and must be HETEROSEXUAL. "

Which, quite frankly, is a ridiculous state of affairs.

yuri couple images would be different from yuri sex images because the point of couple is to show romance between partners; the yuri tag here just shows it's F-F.

yuri rating:s or yuri -rating:e, whatever you prefer. Same for yaoi.

ShadowbladeEdge said:
yuri rating:s or yuri -rating:e, whatever you prefer. Same for yaoi.

Except that WON'T show me what I'm looking for.
Girls kissing is not the same as a yuri couple.

Because that's all that's in yuri rating:s? Just to be clear yuri rating:s -kissing -incipient_kiss is 406 pages right now, nearly 73% of yuri rating:s.

But then, wouldn't couple -yaoi -yuri gain similar results to the current wiki, and allow for non-yaoi and non-yuri couple images?

The problem with that is that basic members are limited to two tags max when searching, including excluded tags.

Bzzzzt. An argument that is strictly verboten on pools isn't going to be just fine anywhere else.

My opinion is that couple is more or less the straight version of yaoi and yuri. So throwing them in there would just bog it down without even adding that much information to the stuff under yaoi and yuri.

So basically, the three tags are identical and equal except for referring to different sexualities?

By my reckoning, yeah pretty much.

Then, we should start tagging any heterosexual kissing etc as couple?

I guess, though I would also pay attention to the tone of the image, looking to see if it's particularly romantic or not.

Well then, what about girl-with-girl and boy-with-boy images that are not romantic? The homoerotic equivalents of the images in -rating:s -solo -yuri -yaoi -couple (that search might not work, I just put it there as a definition)? For example, right now there are seven pages of yuri rape.

It's fine by me to turn yuri and yaoi into couple equivalents (that's what some commenters seem to expect), but we'll need superset tags that include the other stuff too. How about using gay and lesbian (unless we want both of those for the LGBT identities, including solo pictures)?

IMHO, however, making yuri, yaoi, bisexual, futa_with_* and the implicit hetero orthogonal both to ratings and to the couple tag would produce simpler searches and less confusing tag definitions. I'd also like to promote romance as an alternative to couple with a less ambiguous name. We could even redefine couple (or maybe duo) to include platonic couples, any two characters that the image presents as (close) companions.

That's what mutual_yuri is for. If people are so inclined, they can make a mutual_yaoi tag as well.

imho, the romance tag is unnecessary and i intend to clean and empty all the posts involved. it can be covered by couple, yuri and other existing tags. some doesn't seem to involve romance at all.

Hillside_Moose said:
That's what mutual_yuri is for. If people are so inclined, they can make a mutual_yaoi tag as well.

I'll use these tags then.
Seems like an alright substitute.

Actually, I just thought of something else:
what about futanari couples? Do we have to invent mutual_futa as well?

What if it's a couple with just 1 futa?

Yes, couple is the heterosexual yuri/yaoi, I think. It has an unfortunate name and I wouldn't mind changing that (not like homosexual couples aren't couples, after all). But I don't think the solution is to break the tag's intended meaning. ;)

couple includes any picture that explicitly identifies two people as a couple. Kissing or just holding hands, depending on the picture, is enough.

No opinion on the futa thing haha...

This doesn't really work. Mutual yuri is about lesbian passion whilst couple is about romance, there is a difference.

Yeah, I was expecting more like a "oh hmm i guess that would be weird" kind of response to my earlier question...