Tag Implication: corndog -> hot_dog

Implicating corndog -> hot_dog.

Reason: Breaded hot dog on a stick.

Appearance-wise it does not share the same appearance of a plain hot dog, so -1 for the implication.

Agreeing with NWF Renim. A corndog is a sausage on a stick covered in batter while a hot dog is a sausage placed in between a bun. Looking over the hot dog tag, I'm seeing a type of sausage-on-a-stick food item that is neither a corndog or a hot dog. Should a new tag be created for that kind of food item?

It's apparently not uncommon for hot dogs in Japan to be served on a stick like a corn dog (I guess at like festivals, beach, etc), at least that was what someone told me when I questioned it.

It could probably warrant having its own tag, but since the hot dog is very clearly depicted, it would have to implicate the hot_dog tag.

Where I'm from, they serve sausage-on-a-stick at nearly all local fairs and carnivals.

When I think "hot dog," I think of a sausage between two buns. Neither corndog nor reese's sausage-on-a-stick example would benefit from an implication to hot_dog; if anything, it would only pollute the tag.

I'd disagree with you. While eating the hot dog is commonly done with a bun, that isn't the only way to eat a hot dog (nor the only way they'd be shown), so limiting it to just the kind between a bun is silly. A hot dog is the sausage, not the bun, not the sausage with the bun, just the sausage. It would be foolish to use a definition that would make even cooking hot dogs on sticks over an open campfire not qualify for the tag.

A corndog is visually distinct from a hotdog, regardless of if it's on a stick or a bun.

A hot dog is not a corndog. A hot dog is technically a sausage, but they are not conflated in the common parlance. A corndog is defined by its preparation (i.e. being covered in corn meal batter). None of these things are defined by the method of cooking (e.g skewered over flames, grilled, boiled, etc). None of the class of sausages is defined by its relationship with any sort of bread.

If I asked for a sausage and got a hot dog, I'd be awfully peeved...

The commentary in this webcomic is possibly relevant:
http://www.irregularwebcomic.net/2879.html

Basically he comments that "hot dog" in Australian usage is solely the sausage combined with the bun, whereas common usage in the US is that the sausage itself is the "hot dog".

I happen to be in the latter camp, but would vote to not implicate since corndogs and hot dogs are quite visually distinct. Although I'd list "hot dogs" as one of the ingredients for a corndog, I'd never refer to a prepared corn dog as a "hot dog".

I agree. No alias, no implication.

Hellbus said:
Implicating corndog -> hot_dog.

Reason: Breaded hot dog on a stick.

This is blasphemy.

NWF_Renim said:
A hot dog is the sausage, not the bun, not the sausage with the bun, just the sausage.

I believe the word you're looking for is "wiener", or "frankfurter", or just "frank". It's not a hot dog unless it's in a bun, package labels be damned.

Well given that in some places "wiener" and "frankfurter" are different things (ie different meat in it), the only single word that is used for all of them is "hot dog," so just learn to live with it.

Better begin using hot_dog_bun + hot_dog for the "complete" sausage served in a bun.

Let's not.

I don't know a damn thing about corndogs but a hotdog is a hotdog around here whether it's in a bun or not. But I don't think we need to tag the buns separately, just use hotdog for either. Do we really have bun vs no-bun fetishists who will be offended if we don't distinguish? Seems like overkill.