Aliases should go in the direction of the thing that's more general, not more specific. There are weapons that can be fired that strictly speaking aren't guns: crossbows, arm cannons, rocket launchers, etc.
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There are also images like post #596089, post #689250, and post #542533 under the firing tag. I don't think muzzle_flash or gunfire would be appropriate if those types of images are intended to be included.
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Muzzle_flash already implicates firing, perhaps have gunfire aliased to muzzle_flash?
Though on a second look, what exactly is gunfire intended for? Is it for depictions of guns firing or is it for the bullets that have been fired from the gun? In short from an image like post #399243, are we tagging the gun being fired or the bullets hitting the ground and the boxes?
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NWF_Renim said:
perhaps have gunfire aliased to muzzle_flash?
-1.
I would tag e.g. post #627902 with gunfire, yet no muzzle_flash is visible.
Some artists use only smoke instead of a flash. Some might only hint at the recoil and show the damage done by the hit.
Katajanmarja said:
-1.I would tag e.g. post #627902 with gunfire, yet no muzzle_flash is visible.
I added something to the my post a minute before you posted.
Also I'd argue that your example would not qualify for the tag. Not seeing the shot coming out of the gun should generally not qualify it for firing. The firing tag is not for showing the weapon after it has fired, it is showing the weapon in the middle of firing.
NWF_Renim said:
Muzzle_flash already implicates firing, perhaps have gunfire aliased to muzzle_flash?Though on a second look, what exactly is gunfire intended for? Is it for depictions of guns firing or is it for the bullets that have been fired from the gun? In short from an image like post #399243, are we tagging the gun being fired or the bullets hitting the ground and the boxes?
Well, gunfire usually indictes the bullet leaving the gun, the spent casing being ejected, and the muzzle flash. The only problem is that images usually aren't drawn with all 3 of those happening, usually just the muzzle flash.
Gunfire could also be used just for the bullets and could be used to refer to an image where they're receiving fire from a not pictured source. In those kinds of depictions you generally might not even have the bullet so much visible, as streaks and flashes of the impacts.
That usage would be different than the depiction of a gun being fired, as the gun isn't even present. Though the term is used for both.
NWF_Renim said:
I'd argue that your example would not qualify for the tag. Not seeing the shot coming out of the gun should generally not qualify it for firing. The firing tag is not for showing the weapon after it has fired, it is showing the weapon in the middle of firing.
What rather little real-life experience I have of firearms, the muzzle flash is often not visible in broad daylight. I interpreted post #627902 as depicting the (split-)second during which the bullet leaves the gun, although the artist had chosen to put emphasis on the casing_ejection.
Not like I am planning to make this a huge issue, though.
NWF_Renim said:
Gunfire could also be used just for the bullets and could be used to refer to an image where they're receiving fire from a not pictured source. In those kinds of depictions you generally might not even have the bullet so much visible, as streaks and flashes of the impacts.
Incidentally, I've been considering making an under_fire tag for posts like post #399243, post #495337, post #275818.
Anelaid said:
Gunfire could be used as general term to the discharge of firearms being involved within a picture. Either being fired at the character from off-screen, or signs of a gun being fired. Muzzle-Flash is incorrect since a lot of variables can block it from being seen.
I am inclined to align with Anelaid's first sentence.
Sorry if this opened up an messy can of worms.
zatchii said:
Incidentally, I've been considering making an under_fire tag for posts like post #399243, post #495337, post #275818.
Sounds good to me. Then we can restrict "firing" to seeing the actual act happen from the gun.
Gunfire only has 5 posts so I'm aliasing it to firing for now.