Mamonomusume Tags

Currently there's two tags for the same character: jewel_(mamonomusume) and lamia_hygieia. I'm not familiar with the VN, so which one is the proper tag to alias to?

Regarding the title tag, mamonomusume_to_no_seikatsu_~ramia_no_baai~, the subtitle -- the part surrounded by tildes -- is unnecessary, since it's there to signify the monster girl in question. (Other than the lamia, there's also another entry in the series starring a plant monster girl called alraune.) It should be shorted to mamonomusume_to_no_seikatsu or mamono_musume_to_no_seikatsu; if it means anything, I've seen the title spelled out as the latter more frequently.

The character tags should be edited from lamia hygieia to jewel_(mamonomusume).

As for the title, it should be mamonomusume to no seikatsu, with the ~lamia no baai~ variant implicating it. The Alraune part should have its own variant also implicating the main.

I'm for sticking with the "mamonomusume" romanization over "mamono musume", as it's the more established way of doing so. Just off the top of my head, 猫娘 is nearly always romanized as "nekomusume", very seldom as "neko-musume" or "neko musume". I see no reason to alter the practice for 魔物娘.

sgcdonmai said:
The character tags should be edited from lamia hygieia to jewel_(mamonomusume).

Done.

As for the title, it should be mamonomusume to no seikatsu, with the ~lamia no baai~ variant implicating it. The Alraune part should have its own variant also implicating the main.]

Guess so. What is the alraune title, exactly? Just mamonomusume_to_no_seikatsu_~alraune_no_baai~?

I'm also thiking "ramia" should be "lamia" in the game title, since we use the standard spelings of non-Japanese, non-fictional words (e.g. test in baka_to_test_[etc] rather than tesuto)

Implicating the subtitle to the main tag is redundant. The only difference in each entry is the monster girl, so if you wanted the lamia version, just look up the character or mamonomusume_to_no_seikatsu lamia (same with alraune, in theory).

I suggested that specifically because I'm fairly certain those two things are spinoffs of okayado's my_life_with_monstergirl series. They do have essentially the same name, after all.

edit: Also, requesting an alias from bubuduke to bubuzuke for proper romanization.

Hillside_Moose said:
Implicating the subtitle to the main tag is redundant. The only difference in each entry is the monster girl, so if you wanted the lamia version, just look up the character or mamonomusume_to_no_seikatsu lamia (same with alraune, in theory).

I considered that, but I'm not very familiar with what these are. If it's a whole separate game/vn then it wouldn't be unusual to have tags for each iteration. It's just coincidence that it's redundant, really. Not that I don't like using the core tag alone better, mind you.

But given what sgc said about them being spinoffs, the subtitles seem appropriate.

sgcdonmai said: edit: Also, requesting an alias from bubuduke to bubuzuke for proper romanization.

Done.

Edit: And we should really be aliasing my_life_with_monstergirl to mamonomusume_to_no_seikatsu, right?

jxh2154 said:
Edit: And we should really be aliasing my_life_with_monstergirl to mamonomusume_to_no_seikatsu, right?

No! It's a completely different series!

That's the name in Japanese, though, and we tend to favor that here.

Besides that, there hasn't been any alias or implication put in place yet, so aliasing my life with monstergirl to mamonomusume to no seikatsu wouldn't affect bubuzuke's "__ no baai" stuff, as they use the longer title.

I'm still convinced bubuzuke's comics and game are a spin-off of (or otherwise heavily inspired by) okayado's comics.

Okayado's comics aren't titled "Mamonomusume to no Seikatsu", though, unless he's renamed them since they were posted here. The actual comics are all titled （ｓｐｅｃｉｅｓ）のいる日常; they don't have an overall title that I can find.

post #232868 has a comment pointing to http://d.hatena.ne.jp/dangerous1192/20080323/p2, which refers to it as the モンスター娘のいる日常 series, consistent with the titles on the posted comics. (Odd that it specifically uses "monster musume", but then, it could just be a fan-given title there too.) It's certainly "no iru ichijou" rather than "to no seikatsu".

(I don't have a Pixiv account, so I can't easily check Okayado's page there to see if anything's changed. It seems unlikely, though.)

Okayado tags them with モン娘のいる日常シリーズ (Monmusume no Iru Nichijou Series).

Ah I missed the "essentially" in sgc's "They do have essentially the same name, after all."

What's the preference on monster_musume_* vs monmusume_*? I'm guessing the former would be more formal and thus the better tag to use for the Okayado comics.

I'd say monster_musume is the better choice, yeah. It might not precisely correspond to the Pixiv tag (thanks for checking that, jjj), but the "mon" in that is just an abbreviation of "monster", and the full-length tag will be less confusing for most Danbooru purposes.

kounishin said:
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Ho boy. I retract my position on the naming. I was going entirely off of memory, when I should have double-checked myself. I still think they're a spin-off on the concept, but the name difference is too much to connect them without further evidence.

Incidentally, I'm in favor of okayado's comics being tagged monster_musume_no_iru_nichijou.

Why not just nuke the tag and make them a pool? Okayado's comics appear to have a specific order.

Making a pool would work for the actual "Life with..." comics, but I'm not sure about the extra artwork. Most of it is clearly set in the same universe (so the copyright tag would apply if there was one), but the usual practice with pools for a series seems to be that it has just the comics that are actually part of that series - no gift art, extra pics by the original artist, and so on.

sgcdonmai said:
I still think they're a spin-off on the concept, but the name difference is too much to connect them without further evidence.

I'd agree that the ~Lamia no Baai~ 4koma (are they also by bubuzuke? They're not tagged that way, and it doesn't look like his name in the corner...) were very likely inspired by okayado's comics, but I wouldn't say they're close enough to call them a spin-off.

There seems to be a common ancestor to a lot of this stuff; Kenko Kurosu's Monster Girl Profile works are the oldest I know of, but I doubt the other artists are drawing straight from that version of the world either - there are a lot of similarities, but also more than a few differences. My guess would be that it all grew out of discussions on 2ch or some other Japanese BBS, and there probably isn't any one artist or work we can point to and say "that's the original, there".

kounishin said:
(...) the ~Lamia no Baai~ 4koma (are they also by bubuzuke? They're not tagged that way, and it doesn't look like his name in the corner...)

I think the name (蚊野人) reads Kano Jin, but not at all certain. For all I know, it could be one of bubuzuke's pennames.

sgcdonmai said:
I think the name (蚊野人) reads Kano Jin, but not at all certain. For all I know, it could be one of bubuzuke's pennames.

This artist specifies 蚊野人's reading as "kanohito", but I'm not sure if that's the same artist.

kounishin said: Making a pool would work for the actual "Life with..." comics, but I'm not sure about the extra artwork.

In that case it sounds like a pool is a good idea for the comics, but we should probably also keep the tag.

Also, my_life_with_monstergirl aliased to monster_musume_no_iru_nichijou.