We don't individually tag the other Touhou games, is there something that makes this one worth the extra distinction, or should the tag be axed?
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We don't individually tag the other Touhou games, is there something that makes this one worth the extra distinction, or should the tag be axed?
Updated by Cyberia-Mix
If we kill it, then subterranean_animism should probably go too. I don't see any reason to have either of them around.
I'm fine with it being on images with the text or visual references (ie: post #626958) but I don't think we need it beyond that.
People seem to like making tags for individual games in a series. Personally, I question the need for the pokemon_heartgold_and_soulsilver and pokemon_diamond_and_pearl tags, myself. EDIT: Especially considering the latter only has two posts.
However, to stay on the Touhou theme, we seem to have tags for all of the Windows Touhou games, as seen in the Wiki.
glasnost said:
If we kill it, then subterranean_animism should probably go too. I don't see any reason to have either of them around.
I see no reason why posts making a clear reference to a particular game or its cast, shouldn't be tagged as such.
post #555074
post #463556
post #364918
Seriously they're screaming it all over the place.
Fencedude said:
double_spoilerWe don't individually tag the other Touhou games, is there something that makes this one worth the extra distinction, or should the tag be axed?
Undefined_Fantastic_Object, Imperishable_Night, etc., tags are all over. They could all use some cleaning up, but most are used within reason, usually for ones with the cast, text containing the title, and such. Which is mostly how Double Spoiler has been used so far.
Log said:
I'm fine with it being on images with the text or visual references (ie: post #626958) but I don't think we need it beyond that.
Exactly. I've tried to keep it to that by removing the tag from pictures with no title reference or only one of Aya or Hatate. However, it could be axed from Aya + Hatate, as well, since that could easily be duplicated in a search.
I generally go with what S1eth said in post #581436 in regards to Touhou with the caveat of including specific scene references. To me those are some rules that are pretty hard to mess up.
Updated by UTW
I guess these tags could be useful, but if we're going to keep them around, then we need a clear wiki stating when they are to be used. Under subterranean_animism, for instance, we've got:
Which of these types of image should be under the tag?
(Also, note that all these types of posts could be found using a tag search for the characters themselves, which is why I don't see a need for tags like these.)
glasnost said:
Which of these types of image should be under the tag?
All of them fit to me (apart from the last one ofc).
It's not like these tags were ever likely to become any big, so having an umbrella tag that covers every reference possibilities for each game is a pretty quick and accurate way to identify them.
They have this thing in common that most Touhou posts don't, I'm speaking of the hundreds of "half naked Yuyuko with butterflies" or "grinning Marisa with no background" that look all the same.
For once that we have something small yet diverse enough which can be easily found, why wouldn't you use this opportunity?
glasnost said:
(Also, note that all these types of posts could be found using a tag search for the characters themselves, which is why I don't see a need for tags like these.)
That's partially true.
1) Assuming we agree about using a single tag for every kinds of depiction of a particular game, you find everything with this sole tag where you'd need to perform multiple tag searches otherwise.
And since the setting is specific, once again it's very unlikely that these pools grow big enough so that you ever get a lot of unwanted results.
2) albino tag. Maybe that's not the best example but that should show you the use well enough.
They're shortcut tags. They show some amount of redundancy for sure, but that's still better than intersecting common tags and hoping they don't end up on different characters (which can be messed up in multiple ways). They just make things more accurate.
3) As long as you have shortcuts possibilities it's only natural to use them.
More generally, I have no idea about the global tagging per user-level statistics, but most users since they're members are unable to perform searches like red_eyes white_hair solo or red_eyes white_hair chartags:<2, and this is assuming you aren't trying to find an albino girl in a bigger group of characters, in which case you're screwed no matter your user-level if you can't think of a more specific way to find your image.
Well that's the tag fusion issue in general. But albino is a good fusion, it's specific and easily remembered.
It's handy for all users and it's necessary for members so it's most likely to proliferate.
glasnost said:
- The majority of the posts, which show all the enemies in the game (and, in some cases, the protagonists) standing around looking cool.
- Posts like post #356963 and post #630430, which show some subset of the game's protagonists.
- post #573855, which clearly refers to the game, but not as the focus of the image.
- post #307270, which only has one character, but is an announcement of the game's release.
- A few posts like post #424769, which obviously don't belong.
Which of these types of image should be under the tag?
Well, 1 would be a definite for me. 2 is more iffy, guess w'd have to take it image by image and have some reason to believe the specific game was being referenced. 3 is... whatever, it's probabyl an uncommon one. 4 yes, but again uncommon. 5 iffy, I suppose if it's directly recreating a scene from the game it would be acceptable.
jxh2154 said:
2 is more iffy, guess w'd have to take it image by image and have some reason to believe the specific game was being referenced.
I think this is actually working that way already.
I mean, people don't randomly add game tags to posts, they do because they figure out the meaning of the images. Being mistaken upon this is rather difficult.
So far I guess I only came across a couple of posts that were wrongly using the game tags, so I'm inclined to believe that users grasp the concept well.