Tagme only posts

I've noticed that certain users are continuing to post things with only 'tagme' even after being reminded that it causes posts to get buried and lost.

Is there any way we could get a link to do a search for posts with only that tag, such that the buried & lost posts could be searched for, tagged, & reclaimed?

I'm not entirely sure how the tag list is parsed in the backend, but a simple query that looked for taglists that consisted entirely of "tagme" would work. As far as I know there is no way to do that with current search syntax (not that it would really be useful except in this case).

Perhaps a better extension would be a metatag that limits the number of tags in an image, so you could search for "tags:1 tagme", "tags:2 tagme" or just "tags:1" to find badly-tagged images easily.

In that case, rather than counting the total tags, it'd be better to count the extra tags in addition to those expressly requested. That way "other:0" would always mean "give me images having exactly these tags I listed", and you wouldn't have to adjust the count as you add more tags; but you would still have the flexibility of searching for "tag A, tag B, and one extra tag of any kind".

LaC said:
In that case, rather than counting the total tags, it'd be better to count the extra tags in addition to those expressly requested.

The one problem I could see with that is that just counting the tags can be cached and needs updated only when the tags get changed, counting all but a specific set would need to be calculated for every post every search. I don't think the latter would scale well.

Slipping this a little off topic, I've always wanted a way to search, say... "touhou images with only remilia_scarlet." This is something that would make searching for dupes easier.

What I do now sort of works: just use the '-' to remove the most common tags appearing with remilia_scarlet. This can take a huge tag list and knock it under 20 pages or less, which makes confirming dupes much easier. But I have a feeling that the "find copy:xxx images (or artist or just general) with only character:xxx and no other character:yyy tags" would be less load on the servers... maybe?

Shinjidude said:
The one problem I could see with that is that just counting the tags can be cached and needs updated only when the tags get changed, counting all but a specific set would need to be calculated for every post every search. I don't think the latter would scale well.

That doesn't make sense. "A B and 1 more" and "A B and 3 in total" carry the exact same information, it's just a matter of convenience for the user.

That wording sucked, let me try again.

I want to be able to search for images tagged with *only* the character(s) I specify.

If I want a solo image of fukuzawa_yumi, it should know to ignore any image with any character: type tag other than character:fukuzawa_yumi.

Obviously this only works when something is typed, but types have taken off phenomenally and nearly every major character and series is typed.

This could be useful for artists and such too, but characters would be the most common and straightforward use I think.

jxh2154 said:
Slipping this a little off topic, I've always wanted a way to search, say... "touhou images with only remilia_scarlet." This is something that would make searching for dupes easier.

I also like this idea since it would allow you to pick out single people from mass group pics. Another unusual but useful search would be something like pics with no tags of a given type (artist, copy, char).

I don't think anything like this would be feasible though, as it would probably kill the DB server. Just counting the number of tags, or searching for 'tagme' alone should still be feasible, however, I think.

LaC said:
That doesn't make sense. "A B and 1 more" and "A B and 3 in total" carry the exact same information, it's just a matter of convenience for the user.

I guess you are right, since you could subtract the number of tags in the search string from the total. I didn't think of that.

We should just flog any user that keeps making no effort at tagging.

Personally, the only reason I would ever use 'tagme' for an image is if I did not know the artist and was hoping for someone else to fill it in. :)

Riven said:
Personally, the only reason I would ever use 'tagme' for an image is if I did not know the artist and was hoping for someone else to fill it in. :)

Well, personally, you're doing it wrong. :)

Riven said: Personally, the only reason I would ever use 'tagme' for an image is if I did not know the artist and was hoping for someone else to fill it in. :)

The chance that we'll know the artist off hand is too slim to justify tagging every such image 'tagme'. If it's something really obvious and popular, it'll probably just get seen in the normal course of browsing. So just keep it for its intended use.

I dunno what implications it will have for the query parser and the search engine, but syntax-wise, I think an "exact:" meta-tag would work. So you could say exact:character, exact:copyright, exact:artist, exact:other and exact:all.