@Wyrmmidon: > Ultexia said: > > Also, totenkopf is a form...

Wyrmmidon
2025-06-08T02:40:50-04:00

Ultexia said:

Also, totenkopf is a form of skull_and_crossbones and should implicate it.

No it isn't. From Wikipedia (emphasis mine):

Totenkopf (German: [ˈtoːtn̩ˌkɔpf], i.e. skull, literally "dead person's head") is the German word for skull. The word is often used to denote a figurative, graphic or sculptural symbol, common in Western culture, consisting of the representation of a human skull – usually frontal, more rarely in profile with or without the mandible. In some cases, other human skeletal parts may be added, often including two crossed long bones (femurs) depicted below or behind the skull (when it may be referred to in English as a "skull and crossbones").

It also, as a point of order, isn't an exclusively German, and especially not an exclusively Nazi symbol, or exclusively at 3/4 view, so the wiki needs some serious correction in many regards; even to the modern day, there are plenty of variations of the symbol used as insignia by military/paramilitary units of all kinds in many different countries, so the fact that people are basically only tagging Nazi shit with it is kind of a serious problem, IMO.

Actually, checking through more wikis, this subset of tags is kind of a disaster in general, really, like the article for Jolly Roger saying that it has to have a Skull and Crossbones or Skull and Crossed Swords (untrue, most real life pirate flags didn't even have the 'traditional' Skull and Crossbones- many just had the skull, or a whole skeleton even). The way I see it, Jolly Roger should be for pirate flags (or flags aping being pirate flags), and totenkoph should be a stylized skull as a form of [para-]military insignia, which is a way more logical division to me that doesn't even really make things any harder to tag.