Tag change/alias and Questions,request and Misc thread Suggestion

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I'm not sure if I should but I think it would help alot of people if there was a Tag change/alias and Questions,request and Misc thread.

The reason is most of the post in the forums are tag change/alias and about a handful of them only have a total of 2-3 post and is then abandon/shove all the way back without anyone ever finding it again. Then there might be others that may want to change the same tag that got change like a month/week/years ago.

Also I'm kinda suggesting a questions,request and misc thread cause I believe alot of people here might have questions and I also believe that there might be some like me who is too afraid to make a new thread in the forum(I had a bad experience with making new threads/posts). Like right now, I already feel kinda scared making this. It might also help most newbies cause I know I'm not the only one that don't read/look at the help button or anything in it and most of the answers I want won't be there or the questions that's already been answer is on the 60th page here on the forum. Also a request cause some of it is almost just like the tag change/alias posts.

So I'm kinda suggesting a thread like this so this way the forum might be cleaner/have less 2 post tag change/alias and newbies asking questions that might have been answer months ago. I also saw a place with something like this and it actually help alot of people in need. Not sure if everybody would agree on it but i'm sure it would help somewhat. I just hope none of the mods won't give me a negative record/suspend me for this *nervous laugh*

But if you feel like it would be useless then please just think of this as a request or something thread and ignore it until it gets shove down to the bottom.

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I don't particularly think it's a great idea to start consolidating everything into monster threads. It makes searching for things, and determining relevant forum activity more difficult.

If anything, it might not be a bad idea to have separate forums designated for different topics rather than separate threads. It might also cut back some of the weird community-building requests we've had lately.

Of course that would be a major departure from what we've been doing so far and would require discussion, consensus, and obviously Albert's blessing.

As for being afraid of creating new threads, you shouldn't be. Of course it's common courtesy to read the help docs and search the forum beforehand. But provided you do that and don't see what you were looking for, no one is going to bite your head off for bringing it up again, even if it was discussed before.

If anything, the most likely result in that case would be that someone brings up the fact that it was discussed before and links you to it. If any further discussion needs done past that point it can continue in the new thread.

Also don't take it personally if your proposals don't get accepted by the community. It happens to everyone (even mods), and unless you are completely and repeatedly way off base, no one will think anything less of you for it.

Updated by Shinjidude

Umm, text wall. For the consideration of others, and the clarity of your ideas, could you please format your post a bit with spacing? Thanks.

In regards to the actual content of your post, the idea overall is not without merit. As mentioned though, it is a significant alteration to the system and will require much discussion.

Personally, I'm not against the idea of having a consolidated General Help-type forum, as long as it is used and referred to. We already have general guidelines laid out in wiki pages, but even they give mixed successes.

If anything, I seriously think we do need some more "unofficial rules" laid down, even just to reduce amount of stupid memes that people seem obligated to post as comments. I get violent urges to kill everytime I see another "dat ass" comment.

Updated by Lalaca

Making subforums or splitting the forums into different categories doesn't sound like a bad idea. Danbooru is quite big, and something like this could help keep things neat and easy to find.

For example, we could have a subforum dedicated exclusively to tag discussions, implications and aliases, another for help and FAQs, like pixiv stuff and technical issues, perhaps one for more general and misc topics too, like posting all these translated pixiv tag lists that float around in order to help people with searching, or discussing various artists, comic series, and similar stuff that aren't always fit for discussion in the comments (if you've seen the comments on some of the most popular series, you know what I'm talking about)

Anyway, just a thought.

  • Monster threads: no. Threads have titles for a reason.
  • Subfora: dunno, maybe? I'm not terribly hot on the idea, though it might help with orientating newcomers. But then, we don't really have enough off-topic threads to say that it's a real issue, so it might be a solution in search of a problem.

Overall, I think partitioning might make it harder to keep track of the overall traffic, and give an impression that more traffic is present or encouraged than it really is. Not to mention that we'd invariably have to include an "Other" section, which would almost certainly result in a rise of misguided community-building attempts. I guess it's -0.5 from me on that, too.

Keo said: The reason is most of the post in the forums are tag change/alias and about a handful of them only have a total of 2-3 post and is then abandon/shove all the way back without anyone ever finding it again.

If they have their own thread, with an appropriate title, then it's actually easier. If you are interested in tag blahblah and find a thread called "Tag alias: blahblah -> mehmeh", you're set.

This relies on people to use search, yes. But if there were a couple megathreads, you'd have to search them to find anything of value anyway, because of the size.

We have a few "one and only" type threads, but for narrower puposes. Correcting name_(pixiv###) artist tags in forum #19015. Singular/plural aliases in forum #14788. Unneeded pools in forum #12295. Unneeded wiki entries in forum #24575. And so on. Creating some sort of index of links to them all wouldn't be a bad idea.

Also I'm kinda suggesting a questions,request and misc thread cause I believe alot of people here might have questions and I also believe that there might be some like me who is too afraid to make a new thread in the forum

If we did this the forums would have like two threads. =P Tag Changes and Usage Questions. Add maybe the rules thread and something for technical issues and you've got it all.

Also, discussions can get lengthy. Five different long running conversations simultaneously in one flat-view thread is nightmarish to track.

Lastly, well, I'm the admin who generally needs to decide on most of the non-technical complaint/request threads and I personally prefer having them separate, for my own tracking purposes.

I do miss things sometimes, but that's often because I don't have an opinion right away and am waiting to see how the conversation goes. If nobody replies, the thread can get lost, yes. This is why bumping after a couple days without a reply is perfectly kosher.

Consolidation wouldn't fix that though. Instead of the thread falling back a couple pages, you'd just have the post falling back a couple pages in the thread. That's actually worse.

I just hope none of the mods won't give me a negative record/suspend me for this *nervous laugh*

Only very stupid things get bans. This wasn't stupid (even if I don't think we should do it), so no worries.

Like Fencedude said, there are some technical things that could be imrpoved (like threads not getting read before I click them) but that's a different issue.

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