Oh, please. People are giving this thing its own tag?
It's a decent animation, but does it really need to be blown out of proportion? Having the video on the site is more than enough, let alone tagging things as 'Bad Apple!!'.
If some are going to argue that popularity warrants it, I offer the counter that other 'popular' Touhou videos should be posted here in flash and given their own tag, case in point being IOSYS (ugh) videos. While I don't agree with that either, it's the same thing.
If a substantial amount of related art was put forth, I could see it. And no, I don't think taking caps of the silhouettes and posting them counts in that instance. If you're going to do that, a pool of the video and the silhouettes would be more appropriate, in my opinion.
Treveran said: I don't need to watch it multiple times. I still feel it warrants, at best, a pool.
I don't think you understood. Re-read what I wrote, this time paying attention.
In any case, aren't new tags supposed to be discussed and approved rather than rammed through by a few users?
Not really, no. It's a good idea when they're controversial and you're not sure, but just making a new copyright tag doesn't necessarily need a thread.
Treveran said: Oh, please. People are giving this thing its own tag?
There's nothing terribly precedent-breaking about doing so. Like Hazuki was saying, the song has been used with more than just the Touhou video, and predates it significantly. My first exposure to it was though a cool Idolmaster video that's more than a year and a half old now. The Alstroemeria Records arrangement that's so famous is two and a half years old. The original track is a Touhou game from eleven years ago.
Treveran said: Oh, please. People are giving this thing its own tag?
It's a decent animation, but does it really need to be blown out of proportion? Having the video on the site is more than enough, let alone tagging things as 'Bad Apple!!'.
If some are going to argue that popularity warrants it, I offer the counter that other 'popular' Touhou videos should be posted here in flash and given their own tag, case in point being IOSYS (ugh) videos. While I don't agree with that either, it's the same thing.
If a substantial amount of related art was put forth, I could see it. And no, I don't think taking caps of the silhouettes and posting them counts in that instance. If you're going to do that, a pool of the video and the silhouettes would be more appropriate, in my opinion.
If you see something interesting and descriptive in a picture, make a good effort to find an existing tag that covers it. If you can't find it, add the tag, and go through some like pictures to add it, and you're on your way to contributing. If you start doing it efficiently with the tag-edit menu, you're on your way to being a mod!
I think I made the first entries to several minor tags.
jxh2154 said: There's nothing terribly precedent-breaking about doing so. Like Hazuki was saying,
I understand that now, I didn't catch what he was going for at first. I thought he was referring to the amount of animating done in this specific video.
the song has been used with more than just the Touhou video, and predates it significantly. My first exposure to it was though a cool Idolmaster video that's more than a year and a half old now. The Alstroemeria Records arrangement that's so famous is two and a half years old. The original track is a Touhou game from eleven years ago.
First off, I know it isn't a new song. I even own the album it's on (Akyu's Untouched Score Vol. 1).
That has nothing to do with what I am going after. I'm talking about this specific video that people are making a tag for. This would be different if it was a matter of varied, unique content being posted for one song. For example, if a reasonable quantity of unique art related to the song popped up, then sure, it'd warrant a unique tag. Maybe LLS-related pictures involving Elly or something along those. If not, I don't see a problem with just lumping it in with the rest of the touhou images or giving the video a pool. But what people made the tag for was with this single, specific video in mind, not for the song in general. That is what I have a problem with.
My point is this: Does the site really need a single tag full of enlarged screen caps from one specific video with the occasional piece of related art?
I think this supports my point if anything. Clicking through some of these tags brings up a variety of unique art related to the songs. I don't consider a potential flood of screencaps from a video to be on the same level. Not only that, Vocaloid is a music-oriented subject. I suppose we should create tags for every Touhou song, then?
Edit: That tag is just begging for someone to come along, print-screen various parts of the video and upload them in an attempt to pad their post count.
If you see something interesting and descriptive in a picture, make a good effort to find an existing tag that covers it. If you can't find it, add the tag, and go through some like pictures to add it, and you're on your way to contributing. If you start doing it efficiently with the tag-edit menu, you're on your way to being a mod!
I think I made the first entries to several minor tags.
That leads to a glut of possibly barely used tags though. Ham, for example, would be fine being covered by the 'food' tag alone. People are more likely to search 'food' than to search 'ham'.
Edit: Sorry for the double post, but I didn't see his response until I finished my prior one.
A pool would be appropriate. Individual comic series don't get (or need, in any case) their own tags beyond copyright and artist. If they're linked to one another, they get a pool. Why should it be any different for an individual song? Hell, Alstromeria Records doesn't even have a tag. That should be made before people think a single song needs one.
A pool is appropriate for things that are nothing but screenshots from the movie. Independent art based on the original work is cause for a tag.
Are yukkuri's supposed to be just a pool?
Bad_apple is shaping up to be a significant artistic movement.
Tags also aren't expensive or something we're likely to run out of soon. Tags with 0 members still exist on the site and don't clutter up your searching or slow your experience. Everytime you typo a tag, go back and change it to what's right, there's a 0 member tag there.
Actually I wonder, do those get cleaned up occasionally, or are they really no performance hit?
Dr_Fine_Rolo said: Actually I wonder, do those get cleaned up occasionally, or are they really no performance hit?
I was under the impression that there are automatically scheduled purges of empty (0) tags every once in a while. It kinda does, after all, affect tag searches if they're closely related typos.
