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:p implies closed mouth

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smowtenshi said:

Simply press your lips onto your tongue, I suppose.

Then that doesn't fit into the wiki of closed mouth. Which, given that the whole argument stems from the wiki for :p (which was only changed to include "closed mouth" as part of an edit which was in response to people taking issue with a clause saying that it should be when the character is smiling and had no discussion of closedness)...

If the lips are separated by the tongue then they are not together, any more than they would be if it were, say, a gag in between them instead. Or food. Or anything else.

And are you contending that the two things I linked to above should be tagged closed mouth despite the fact that they clearly aren't? Or that they should be removed from :p, despite the fact that it would render :p meaningless to exclude posts like them? One of these would be necessary if you want this implication to go ahead.

Unbreakable said:

If you aren't gonna be tagging stuff like post #6621551 as closed mouth, there's a problem.

Right, highly stylised images like that one may want both tags.

I was thinking of more realistic depictions. Which obviously means that they shouldn't be exclusive from each other on a site like danbooru - but I wasn't seriously proposing that it should be. Although I do think that excluding things like post #6621551 from the closed mouth tag would be less bad than this implication going through.

There being some overlap between tags doesn't mean that one have an implication to the other though.

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skylightcrystal said:

If anything I'd say that :p and closed_mouth should be mutually exclusive. As the mouth has to be open a bit to let the tongue out.

I'd say it's mutually exclusive with open mouth, since, in danbooru terms, mouth is not open but parted. And since parted lips is for when you can visually see that the mouth is open a little, I'd use the tag that fits the most, which is closed mouth instead of anything else.

pronebone said:

I'd say it's mutually exclusive with open mouth, since, in danbooru terms, mouth is not open but parted. And since parted lips is for when you can visually see that the mouth is open a little, I'd use the tag that fits the most, which is closed mouth instead of anything else.

Why does it have to have one of the three? And plenty of things in :p fit your description of "parted lips" perfectly, including the ones I already posted.

I don't see the need to get stuck on the technicality of the tongue going between the lips to pretend :p technically isn't a closed mouth; For all intents and purposes, if it looks just like a closed mouth i don't see the issue with tagging it as such

Mayhem-Chan said:

I don't see the need to get stuck on the technicality of the tongue going between the lips to pretend :p technically isn't a closed mouth; For all intents and purposes, if it looks just like a closed mouth i don't see the issue with tagging it as such

Agreed. I don't think :P should exist, what with being able to simply search tongue_out closed_mouth, but said tag combination is absolutely valid.

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