@blindVigil: > djbubbles said: > > Objectively speaking,...

blindVigil
2023-01-16T16:43:18-05:00

djbubbles said:

Objectively speaking, Dracula is not in the image, and should not be tagged in it. If there's a general tag for the attack itself and no one uses it, so be it. People searching for Dracula are not searching for his fireball attack. If someone is looking specifically for that, they should search for that. If they don't know what the tag's name is and can't find it on the wiki for some reason, then they can use wildcards.

It's not "somewhat true", your perspective is skewed by the deranged tagging people are doing on this site, which is why you point to a bunch of other examples and say "how else [would] you find them?" The last one is the only image where the actual characters (the mascots of the voicebanks) are depicted in any way (i.e., they're on the box art of the objects in the scene.) While they're not present in the scene as subjects, they are depicted and I think it would be reasonable to keep the character tag. Otherwise, everything else you listed seems, to me, to be objectively falsely tagged.

Except that half of the point of this site is being able to find the art it hosts. There is, to my knowledge, no tag for Castlevania Dracula's iconic triple fireball attack, and frankly there shouldn't be. It would almost certainly be 99% just Dracula. It's not even about finding Dracula, or the attack, it's about finding the reference. "How else would you find this?" is a very pertinent question when tagging. It's why we have a million tags for gacha character alts and skins and what have you. Artists are making art of them, and people will want to find them. They serve a very relevant purpose, and deserve to be tagged.

Magcolo's examples are extremely relevant to this discussion. Borrowed hairstyle is a completely useless tag without an accompanying character tag. The fact he's right is all the more reason the cosplay>character implication doesn't make sense. You can't find some things without a relevant character tag, even if the character isn't physically present, and you can't solve every problem by just making more tags.

That's not at all the case for cosplays. Cosplays have their own tags. The implication doesn't allow you to do anything existing tags can't already easily do, while even making some searches more complicated. Cosplays don't need to have the cosplayed character tagged. If someone wants to find Shimakaze porn, they're probably not looking for Kongou dressed like Shimakaze. But if that is what they were looking for, it's extremely easy to find, whether Shimakaze is tagged or not.