Upload sniping / Uploading with few to no tags

Apollyon said:

If you're going to snipe in tags, don't be surprised if people get on your ass for it. There's also nothing stopping them from giving you Negative records for it. It's not breaking any rules, but it's a dick move.

That is something weird to say, actually.
This only kicks the door open for uneccessary user feedbacks. Especially you should know that writing a feedback only because of image sniping is not valid, since one of your feedbacks with this very content got deleted once by the administration and not so long ago, a similar feedback mentioning that an user uploads without tags got deleted.
So I think that it is not valid at all to send someone a feedback because of image sniping, nor should it be encouraged.

Provence said:

So I think that it is not valid at all to send someone a feedback because of image sniping, nor should it be encouraged.

Then? Why do you make positive feedbacks for it? What makes your feedbacks valid and theirs not?

Mikaeri said:

Then? Why do you make positive feedbacks for it? What makes your feedbacks valid and theirs not?

Image sniping has its advantages, like "sniping" the artist to do revisions or before they are downscaling it, you have mentioned the advantages before.
Besides, user are putting also putting their time into this and they could do something else instead. While it does not please everyone, it should also be mentioned so that their efforts aren't in vain. I actually don't see any problem to say "Good work" to an user who is doing that if the images still end up tagged well by them.
An image storing site should be happy when a good image gets uploaded as fast as possible.

Provence said:

Image sniping has its advantages, like "sniping" the artist to do revisions or before they are downscaling it, you have mentioned the advantages before.
Besides, user are putting also putting their time into this and they could do something else instead. While it does not please everyone, it should also be mentioned so that their efforts aren't in vain. I actually don't see any problem to say "Good work" to an user who is doing that if the images still end up tagged well by them.
An image storing site should be happy when a good image gets uploaded as fast as possible.

So let me get this straight -- you are advocating for uploading fast instead of uploading well? Sound logic. In that case, an upload bot would totally be right up your alley.

You've repeated this same argument time and time again, it's little justification in regards to due diligence with uploads. If we had an upload bot, guess what? We could keep all the pre-revisions, downscales and stuff, and if in the case we ever grab some off-topic/pq content we can always move it to deletion.

You can't have your cake and eat it. You need a better argument than that. +, as CodeKyuubi mentioned, some stuff is just cached in your browser, so it's not like it's impossible to fetch (unless it's a collection).

EDIT: Just came to my mind, what if in the case you min-post an upload it immediately gets attributed to DanbooruBot? Just a crossing thought I had.

Mikaeri said:

So let me get this straight -- you are advocating for uploading fast instead of uploading well? Sound logic. In that case, an upload bot would totally be right up your alley.

You've repeated this same argument time and time again, it's little justification in regards to due diligence with uploads. If we had an upload bot, guess what? We could keep all the pre-revisions, downscales and stuff, and if in the case we ever grab some off-topic/pq content we can always move it to deletion.

You can't have your cake and eat it. You need a better argument than that.

I said that tagging also needs to be done. That counts into "uploading fast and well".

Provence said:

I said that tagging also needs to be done. That counts into "uploading fast and well".

And they don't end up tagged well. I've seen the users you've posted + feedbacks to, they barely clear the checklist and miss a few crucial things more than occasionally. kittey had to issue a neutral recently for a user that you praised for 'improving', when very little has improved.

I actually don't see any problem to say "Good work" to an user who is doing that if the images still end up tagged well by them.

You should do this for literally every user that does this then if you want get your point across. I want to see what the response is.

Log said:

Wasn't GT posting like, hundreds of posts at a time and then he'd go back and tag some of them? I really hope no modern poster is uploading in the volumes he was.

Some, but not all. Another problem with him is that many of his uploads were low-quality, so he was rushing for Touhou posts that weren't good in the first place.

Provence said:

That is something weird to say, actually.
This only kicks the door open for uneccessary user feedbacks. Especially you should know that writing a feedback only because of image sniping is not valid, since one of your feedbacks with this very content got deleted once by the administration and not so long ago, a similar feedback mentioning that an user uploads without tags got deleted.
So I think that it is not valid at all to send someone a feedback because of image sniping, nor should it be encouraged.

There's nothing "weird" about it, actually. If someone is going so far as to hand out records solely for upload sniping, getting involved in a thread like this, or discussing it in the Discord (that led to the thread), that seems like the sniping practice is annoying enough to more than a few other users.

If you're going to bring up that the now deleted Neutral I gave you for sniping on your original account (which I warned you about before I gave you a Neutral for it) as some kind of case for people being okay with sniping, then you shouldn't get to hand out Positives for something as simple and low-effort as sniping because that's been brought up in this thread.

What I'm saying is that that sniping has been grudgingly accepted, but is also known to get on peoples' nerves, for a long time. Longer than you've been here. I'm not about to pretend otherwise for you, for any other one user, or for the sake of curation. If someone is going to hand out Neutrals or even Negatives for it, I'm not going to stop them. I stand by what I said before: Sniping is not breaking any rules, but it's a dick move, and any ire resulting from users is on you for doing it.

So it's fine now to create neut. feedback for image sniping, even though such feedbacks used to get deleted by @NWF_Renim and @Type-kun ?

I'm wondering if I should be doing this myself. I just had two attempts sniped with incorrect and minimal tags.

Are we returning to the days where it's acceptable to leave an upload five or more minutes with level 1 tags?

I'm wondering if the merging proposal will happen.