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Hi guys! My idea is to make new copyright tags for each Gyakuten Saiban (Ace Attorney) as you can see for example in Pokemon or The Legend of Zelda. So you can prevent yourself easier from spoiling cause every part has surprisingand unexpected turnabouts and characters. Wouldn't you agree? If we do this, I need help cause I only know AA4 and 5. I look forward your opinion!
If you want to avoid spoilers, just do a gyakuten_saiban -spoilers search.
Also, I don't think the series has a large enough variety to warrant creating copyright tags. Those tags would mainly cover the minor characters, and there aren't as many compared to how many of the main characters are tagged.
First, thank you for your answer! Well, that's why I'm always setting the spoilers tag. But old games don't get this tag anymore. So I cannot avoid all spoilers.
I still think it would be helpful. Karuma Mei for example has over 150 posts of nearly 1000 as a minor character of one game or so. Look at the tags of post #1301364. There are enough minor characters with at least 30 posts or much more.
Stefan86 said:
First, thank you for your answer! Well, that's why I'm always setting the spoilers tag. But old games don't get this tag anymore. So I cannot avoid all spoilers.
Old games should still get the spoilers tag when something is a spoiler. There's no age limit on spoilers.
Toks said:
Old games should still get the spoilers tag when something is a spoiler. There's no age limit on spoilers.
They should. But people are getting forgetful about things like this. You can't avoid it for every single image. Tagging gyakuten_saiban -gyakuten_saiban_5 would mean that we could see more images of the old games and nothing from the new one. Of course, you want to see fanarts of your games after finishing and find out the story surprises for yourself.
For the record, I've watched a longplay of the third Gyakuten Saiban and from the images I've seen of that game here, I don't see a whole lot that reveals the plot too much. What you DO need to be careful of are careless comments people make in the posts that reveal too much. There was one time I had to downvote a comment in order to hide an uncensored, MAJOR spoiler for the third game's final case.
Again, I'm maintaining my stance against too many specific copyright tags (gyakuten_saiban_1, gyakuten_saiban_2, etc) because a lot of the posts would have Gyakuten Saiban 1 due to many of the major characters having their debut in that game, and I feel that's kind of redundant. The following games wouldn't have as many posts because they would be covering minor characters for the most part, although Gyakuten Saiban 4 would probably be second place after GS1.
If there is an alternative I could propose, it'd be just making Gyakuten Saiban 1-2-3 to cover the first three games, Gyakuten Saiban 4 for Apollo Justice's tenure, and then Gyakuten Saiban 5 for Phoenix's return. But that doesn't make sense for the first three games to be tagged like that. Let's take the Sora no Kiseki trilogy for example - it's just tagged as one game, even though it covers all three, and no one's mentioned anything about that.
So if there were to be series tags made that people would care about, I'd think they'd just be for GS4 and GS5 because they're more recent. The first three games can just automatically fall under plain 'ol Gyakuten Saiban.
Log said:
We wouldn't have to add a secondary tag to images that don't reference specific games, only images that contain characters that only appear in a single game or references to a specific event.
That's right. If you can't say for sure which game it is, then the normal Gyakuten Saiban would be okay.
Benit149 said:
So if there were to be series tags made that people would care about, I'd think they'd just be for GS4 and GS5 because they're more recent. The first three games can just automatically fall under plain 'ol Gyakuten Saiban.
If that's true that in the first three games are no specific characters for a certain game, I'm fine with this solution. So, would it be okay for you all to create tags at least for part 4 and 5?
Stefan86 said:
If that's true that in the first three games are no specific characters for a certain game,
No, all of the games have at least some characters that are unique to them. I mean, in most cases the murderers and the victims don't get much chance to appear again later. Witnesses and main characters do have the tendency to reappear, though that's still not a rule.
So yes, all of the games should get separate tags. They would be particularly useful for images that contain spoilers about a particular game so they can be blacklisted.
Stefan86 said:
So, would it be okay for you all to create tags at least for part 4 and 5?
I don't think anyone's going to object if you start populating the tags yourself. You said you know those two games, so I assume you're able to?
If that's true that in the first three games are no specific characters for a certain game, I'm fine with this solution. So, would it be okay for you all to create tags at least for part 4 and 5?
There are game-specific characters in the first three games, but they're only very minor characters - one-time witnesses, suspects, and the culprit at most. I just hardly find it worth the effort to create tags for these one-shot characters when the Gyakuten Saiban tag can act as an umbrella tag for all of them plus the major characters.
GS4 and GS5 tags may have more merit seeing as they're recent games and, like Stefan86 says, if people want to avoid posts for those games entirely, it'd be easier to do a gyakuten_saiban -gyakuten_saiban_4 -gyakuten_saiban_5 search.
I'm okay with GS4 and GS5 copyright tags if you want me to populate them.
Court Records does a pretty good job cataloging the characters and marking if they only appear in one game (and which cases in each game) if someone needs a guide to it. PW = 1, JFA = 2, T&T = 3
Went through the character list and tagged them with their debut game, as well as Naruhodou Ryuuichi's appearance change for Gyakuten Saiban 4 and Odoroki Housuke's for Gyakuten Saiban 5.
And I stand corrected about GS2 and GS3 possibly having the fewest posts. Several major and/or popular characters made their debut in those games (Karuma Mei and Ayasato Harumi in #2, Godot in #3), which slipped past my mind. Derp.
Anyway, now we need series implications:
gyakuten_saiban_1 -> gyakuten_saiban
gyakuten_saiban_2 -> gyakuten_saiban
gyakuten_saiban_3 -> gyakuten_saiban
gyakuten_saiban_4 -> gyakuten_saiban
gyakuten_saiban_5 -> gyakuten_saiban
gyakuten_kenji -> gyakuten_saiban
If no one beats me to it, I'll work on the Wikis tomorrow. I'm also considering adding each character's debut game in their individual Wikis to avoid confusion.
@Benit149 Why did you tag the characters by their "debut" games? As Log said:
Log said:
We wouldn't have to add a secondary tag to images that don't reference specific games, only images that contain characters that only appear in a single game or references to a specific event.
We don't need to tag every naruhodou_ryuuichi post with gyakuten_saiban_1, since he isn't limited to the first game. He appears in many different games. Same with many other characters.
Tagging characters by their debut game doesn't really have any practical purpose that I can see. Doing so just dilutes these tags and makes them less useful. For example, post #1533522 in no way references the first game, and people searching for the first game likely wouldn't want to see it.
These implications will also be needed:
create implication gyakuten_kenji_1 -> gyakuten_kenji
create implication gyakuten_kenji_2 -> gyakuten_kenji
Did
create implication gyakuten_saiban_1 -> gyakuten_saiban
create implication gyakuten_saiban_2 -> gyakuten_saiban
create implication gyakuten_saiban_3 -> gyakuten_saiban
create implication gyakuten_saiban_4 -> gyakuten_saiban
create implication gyakuten_saiban_5 -> gyakuten_saiban
create implication gyakuten_kenji -> gyakuten_saiban
create implication gyakuten_kenji_1 -> gyakuten_kenji
create implication gyakuten_kenji_2 -> gyakuten_kenji
