^technically, isn't that what being the hero is all about? lol, look back through most of the history of anime, sports, life in general, and you'll see Reimu's logic on display. Fact.
KazuyaRazuKazama said: ^technically, isn't that what being the hero is all about? lol, look back through most of the history of anime, sports, life in general, and you'll see Reimu's logic on display. Fact.
A lot of the classic anime have non-mere human heroes. Goku was an alien, Yusuke was part demon, Astro Boy was a robot, et cetera.
Sports players generally are mere humans but they also generally don't fight monsters unless I've been missing some badass sports things.
And people in life in general don't tend to fight monsters either and the mythology concerning monsters also tended to have non mere human heroes as I already mentioned.
randomness said: Actually, a lot of mythological heroes were descended from the gods. Not quite mere humans.
Maybe, Reimu thought that way because it's a common perception in Gensoukyou (which had been separated from outside world for hundreds of years). The fact that her lineage is known for keeping the Gensoukyou's barrier doesn't help either.
randomness said: A lot of the classic anime have non-mere human heroes. Goku was an alien, Yusuke was part demon, Astro Boy was a robot, et cetera.
Sports players generally are mere humans but they also generally don't fight monsters unless I've been missing some badass sports things.
And people in life in general don't tend to fight monsters either and the mythology concerning monsters also tended to have non mere human heroes as I already mentioned.
So, yeah.
Wasn't talking about backgrounds and fighting monsters. Talking about how certain people (in the case, our two heroines) get the bulk of the credit, usually more than what's actually deserved. -Goku, didn't do ALL the fighting by himself. -Most people always talk about how great the superstar/hero is on a good team. -Throughout all-known history leaders of entire nations have been/are still given credit for solving problems that took hundreds of thousands of peoples' combined efforts.
KazuyaRazuKazama said: Wasn't talking about backgrounds and fighting monsters. Talking about how certain people (in the case, our two heroines) get the bulk of the credit, usually more than what's actually deserved.
Oh, sorry. Your point went FOOM over my head. I get what you mean now.
randomness said: "Those who defeat monsters are always mere humans."
Actually, a lot of mythological heroes were descended from the gods. Not quite mere humans.
In relatively new work, that's Hellsing's Alucard's logic.
Even heroes descended from gods are still representing human. They're not some angel from heaven or creature of darkness, but had their life among human and identified with human.
randomness said: "Those who defeat monsters are always mere humans."
Actually, a lot of mythological heroes were descended from the gods. Not quite mere humans.
Disregarding the argument already present, I feel that the idea of "monsters being defeated by mere humans" also has to do with humanity. Most characters in fiction (usually characters who appear to be or become monsters) often use these types of quotes in regards to humanity whenever they confront actual "monsters," especially when the characters are no less "monsters" themselves.
How do you think most knights are able to kill dragons? Or that some mythological heroes aren't as feral and devious as others? Or that comic book heroes like Spawn and Jackie Estacado are able to remain who they are without succumbing to their newfound instincts? There are things about being human that monsters cannot understand, which is usually their downfall. Other monsters in fiction actually learned about humanity and use it against their own kin (usually ending it with a heroic sacrifice).
In this fight, what allows Reimu and Marisa to win in the end is that while there's nothing normal about them, their humanity drives them to take drastic measures or (in Marisa's case) raise their spirits back up and attempt to overcome; something that Remilia is too ignorant to understand. Keine also fits the bill because (of all things) she's a youkai who is a teacher to humans. It's only natural that she knows what being human is like.
The whole theory might not be as correct, but I think it's out there.
.... WUT?, I guess this is what I get for trying to read comments to see what other people is thinking, seems like this author really knows how to make the little hamster in your heads move with just a few words.
If I had to guess, Ill bet this is Marisa being delusional, and nothing of this is really happening, she is just dreaming it because she really wants to fight along Reimu again.
randomness said: And also Mima and Yuuka who helped fight Makai, land of the curiously human looking demons.
Not to mention that its implied that Remilia and Sakuya were the ones who solved the IN incident.
Can I have a bit reference from that? Because I can't find it on Aya's article
This is only to keep you still.Even with the sun out...!Mere human?What's wrong with that?
Those who defeat monsters are always mere humans (heroes).Do you think you've sealed me with a barrier of this level?!With your power, now that you've downgraded to a mere human!I never for a second thought I'd be able to contain you with only my current power.