Oh man, I love Fipanese. "Meluisia" for "shut up" is like saying... well, I can't do it in English, because of certain fundamental differences that make it hard to convey. In English, because there isn't much grammatical morphology, saying a word by itself is not remarkable. If you say "noisy", it's self-evident what it means, and it can stand on its own without having to refer to something. But in a language with more grammatical morphology, like Finnish, some things just don't make sense when out of context because of obligatory congruence and case marking. "Meluisia" is Finnish for, roughly, NOISY+PLURAL+PARTITIVE. The partitive is, roughly said, a Finnish object case (though it is best analysed as a case actually marking aspect (telicity) that is part of the noun case paradigm), roughly analogous to meaning to French "de"-prepositions, meaning that the object is affected only partially. What Eila is saying *could* be used, but only in a certain context, say, when pointing out specifically noisy things.
A better way to say "it's noisy" is to use the single partitive with a elliptical passive construction: [on] meluisaa, 'it is noisy'. Of course, neither of these mean "shut up", which is probably because the Japanese did just a dictionary roulette translation. A natural translation of "shut up" and "urusai" in Finnish is of course "turpa kiinni", 'shut your muzzle', with its myriad of variations inc. "turpa lukkoon" etc.
nae said:
Oh man, I love Fipanese. "Meluisia" for "shut up" is like saying... well, I can't do it in English, because of certain fundamental differences that make it hard to convey. In English, because there isn't much grammatical morphology, saying a word by itself is not remarkable. If you say "noisy", it's self-evident what it means, and it can stand on its own without having to refer to something. But in a language with more grammatical morphology, like Finnish, some things just don't make sense when out of context because of obligatory congruence and case marking. "Meluisia" is Finnish for, roughly, NOISY+PLURAL+PARTITIVE. The partitive is, roughly said, a Finnish object case (though it is best analysed as a case actually marking aspect (telicity) that is part of the noun case paradigm), roughly analogous to meaning to French "de"-prepositions, meaning that the object is affected only partially. What Eila is saying *could* be used, but only in a certain context, say, when pointing out specifically noisy things.
A better way to say "it's noisy" is to use the single partitive with a elliptical passive construction: [on] meluisaa, 'it is noisy'. Of course, neither of these mean "shut up", which is probably because the Japanese did just a dictionary roulette translation. A natural translation of "shut up" and "urusai" in Finnish is of course "turpa kiinni", 'shut your muzzle', with its myriad of variations inc. "turpa lukkoon" etc.
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Steg
14 days agoFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
Ichigo69
14 days agoAll right, anybody know wtf リーホでやれよミヤフジ means?
I know the ミヤフジ is Miyafuji, but I haven't a clue what the other is......
Soljashy
14 days agoLooks to me like it says リーネ.
Freyjadour
14 days agoEila look cute in this
keroko
11 days agoNote how she complains, but does not stop Yoshika. Such a softy you are, Eila. <3
nae
10 days agoOh man, I love Fipanese. "Meluisia" for "shut up" is like saying... well, I can't do it in English, because of certain fundamental differences that make it hard to convey. In English, because there isn't much grammatical morphology, saying a word by itself is not remarkable. If you say "noisy", it's self-evident what it means, and it can stand on its own without having to refer to something. But in a language with more grammatical morphology, like Finnish, some things just don't make sense when out of context because of obligatory congruence and case marking. "Meluisia" is Finnish for, roughly, NOISY+PLURAL+PARTITIVE. The partitive is, roughly said, a Finnish object case (though it is best analysed as a case actually marking aspect (telicity) that is part of the noun case paradigm), roughly analogous to meaning to French "de"-prepositions, meaning that the object is affected only partially. What Eila is saying *could* be used, but only in a certain context, say, when pointing out specifically noisy things.
A better way to say "it's noisy" is to use the single partitive with a elliptical passive construction: [on] meluisaa, 'it is noisy'. Of course, neither of these mean "shut up", which is probably because the Japanese did just a dictionary roulette translation. A natural translation of "shut up" and "urusai" in Finnish is of course "turpa kiinni", 'shut your muzzle', with its myriad of variations inc. "turpa lukkoon" etc.
Aeroslaughter
9 days agoWat? Fipanese? Finnish?
recklessfirex
7 days agoJapanese artists routinely butcher English, so it's not too surprising they do the same to other languages as well.
@nae: Thanks for the info. Always good to know the right way to say things in other languages. :)
MacAn
4 days agoCan't stop laughing to the idea; it SO should have been "turpa kiinni"