Danbooru quality

I really think that election system is taking things way overboard. Historically there have been what, 4-5 people demoted and 2-3 actively contested out of 300?

Instead of a system of electing new contributors a thread announcing new contributors where trusted users could contest their promotion would be far simpler and less of a pain in the ass to keep track of as long as we restricted who may participate in the thread and the type of posts (30 "oh yes I agree this is a good poster" posts in a row help far less than 5 "this is a bad poster he should not be promoted for x reason" posts.)

Log said:
I really think that election system is taking things way overboard. Historically there have been what, 4-5 people demoted and 2-3 actively contested out of 300?

Instead of a system of electing new contributors a thread announcing new contributors where trusted users could contest their promotion would be far simpler and less of a pain in the ass to keep track of as long as we restricted who may participate in the thread and the type of posts (30 "oh yes I agree this is a good poster" posts in a row help far less than 5 "this is a bad poster he should not be promoted for x reason" posts.)

Sounds fine to me, but I could understand if people didn't want to put members on the spot. Especially if it's ones they like.

ChairThrowingLady said:
...but I could understand if people didn't want to put members on the spot. Especially if it's ones they like.

This. I'm reluctant to support a system that encourages publicly bad-mouthing people.

I can understand not wanting to hurt the feelings of good users who can't be 100% trusted to upload quality art but being stuck in the queue for 2+ years should do an equally harsh job on their feelings, really. As long as we kept it civil and to a set group of users the issue is easily addressed.

Random example posts:

jxh2154 said:
Promoted user: kazzer

Trusted User said:
Objection.
post #939340, post #948165 show a lack of understanding of the TOS.
post #948548, post #948186 show a lack of grasp of quality art clause.

(I just picked a random bad image out of the recently deleted posts but you get the drift.)

Not to make Danbooru even more elitist than it already is (which would be saying something), but perhaps if public criticism is an issue, a private forum for moderators for such discussion would be useful. That way things aren't put out in the open for everyone and Google to find. People could be nominated in public, and then vetted in private.

The fact that there are more promotions recently explains why the mod queue has shrunk quite a bit recently. Not a bad idea, usually when I'm done with the mod queue I'm too tired/have something else to do, and can't get to possible promotions. This may change if the mod queue is short enough.

As for the issue brought up here, maybe (since promoting a guy is essentially -x posts in the mod queue) there could be a standard trial period where anyone promoted to Contributor still gets sent through the mod queue for a week or two (with the images maybe having a green border or so, like they're marked in a positive way as "probably good, but just check just in case")? And if a new Contributor has a bunch of images deleted from mod queue, the guy who promoted him gets an automatic message "The guy [x] who you promoted needs a review"? And if not, the trial period ends and he becomes a "real" Contributor.

There have been times where I wanted to promote someone but then I saw his deleted images and I wasn't sure if they "got it". This would allow people like me to invite people more readily, as well, since if they turn out to be bad apples, they will most likely still be caught.

Shinjidude said:
Not to make Danbooru even more elitist than it already is (which would be saying something), but perhaps if public criticism is an issue, a private forum for moderators for such discussion would be useful. That way things aren't put out in the open for everyone and Google to find. People could be nominated in public, and then vetted in private.

I've actually wanted a private forum for janitors+ to discuss things that need to be discussed outside the public view for a while. (Things like users to keep an eye on for positive/negative reasons, posting suspicions about users being parachutes for other users etc.)

Yeah, same here.

I'm with Shinji that we need a private forum. There're many candidates that I have passed on nominating because of small doubts and I have nobody to discuss with. Likewise I turned blind eyes to problematic uploaders because while being bad, they're not that bad to personally request demotion.

I like the private forum idea also.

Why is this treated like a general trend when the wrong doings are restricted to two users, one of which has already been dealt with?

Regarding the private forum, I'm just a bit iffy on that, as I prefer the greater transparency.

isn't there be a way to make certain forum topics unviewable to members below a certain rank? I feel that would be the simplist thing to do when dealing with certain topics like discussing promotions or nominating people.

unless we already have topics like that, then ignore me.

Nope, all topics are public.