I noticed a lot of pictures, especially though related to touhou have bamboo forests. I created a tag for this and would like help populating it.
Also two implications:
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I noticed a lot of pictures, especially though related to touhou have bamboo forests. I created a tag for this and would like help populating it.
Also two implications:
Updated by jxh2154
Hmm, well if you were searching for "bamboo" images, would you want to find stuff like post #862660? or post #419287?
Anelaid said:
A bamboo broom is made of bamboo, and the bamboo is applied to other things made from bamboo so it seems consistent to how it is tagged so far.
So should bamboo chopsticks and bamboo flooring get the bamboo tag? Look at the tag; nearly every post is for the plant growing out of the ground, so Cyberia-Mix is correct on not implicating.
jjj14 said:
Hmm, well if you were searching for "bamboo" images, would you want to find stuff like post #862660? or post #419287?
Would you want to find them if you were searching bamboo_broom, for that matter? Would you want to find post #248049 if you were searching for shanghai_doll? This has more to do with our policy of tagging incidental/minor image features than it does with any inherent problem with the implication.
Hillside_Moose said:
So should bamboo chopsticks and bamboo flooring get the bamboo tag? Look at the tag; nearly every post is for the plant growing out of the ground, so Cyberia-Mix is correct on not implicating.
There isn't much point in having a bamboo_forest tag if we're going to limit bamboo to pictures with the plant growing out of the ground.
If people are really concerned about searching problems, we could make a bamboo_item tag for brooms, stilts, spears, and such, then implicate bamboo_item to bamboo, but it seems obvious to me that adding bamboo_broom should add bamboo by some means.
Incidentally, does anyone know what these things in post #376387 and post #439612 are?
glasnost said:
Incidentally, does anyone know what these things in post #376387 and post #439612 are?
kadomatsu, but I'm just lucky I met them tagged before.
glasnost said:
There isn't much point in having a bamboo_forest tag if we're going to limit bamboo to pictures with the plant growing out of the ground.
I just think bamboo_broom is getting a bit too different from natural bamboo to make the implication worth. A kadomatsu -> bamboo implication would make sense to me however.
glasnost said:
There isn't much point in having a bamboo_forest tag if we're going to limit bamboo to pictures with the plant growing out of the ground.
Since you brought it up, what is the point of a bamboo_forest tag? By all appearances, it's a bamboo forest combo tag. Hell, compared to bamboo_forest and a bamboo forest search, the latter actually give me more relevant results.
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Anelaid said:
Thats because the bamboo_forest tag was just created, once it gets properly populated it will be more useful.
Will it? Now that I consider it, I really don't see any difference between bamboo_forest and forest bamboo. The only time bamboo_forest would be useful is in cases where a single stalk of bamboo appears in a deciduous forest, which are cases that don't exist.
glasnost said:
Will it? Now that I consider it, I really don't see any difference between bamboo_forest and forest bamboo. The only time bamboo_forest would be useful is in cases where a single stalk of bamboo appears in a deciduous forest, which are cases that don't exist.
Its a matter of specificity, at least to me. A bamboo forest is sufficiently different from the typical image of a forest to warrant its own tag.
post #96186, post #32740 post #696762 show that you can have bamboo in a forest.
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Anelaid said:
Its a matter of specificity, at least to me. A bamboo forest is sufficiently different from the typical image of a forest to warrant its own tag.
That's what I think too.
Anelaid said:
Its a matter of specificity, at least to me.
There is such a thing as being too specific. Especially when existing tags work fine.
A bamboo forest is sufficiently different from the typical image of a forest to warrant its own tag.
Considering that everyone was content with just tagging it bamboo and forest until now, I doubt that. Now, if it were something fantastical, like a forest of mushrooms, that might deserve its own tag, but there's nothing farfetched about a forest of bamboo.
post #96186, post #32740 post #696762 show that you can have bamboo in a forest.
First one is something that I would want in a forest bamboo search. I don't even see a forest in the second and third one.
Did these:
bamboo forest -> bamboo
bamboo forest -> forest
Whether we need the tag at all, I'm not sure. It does seem like just another combination tag. But whether we keep it or not, as long as it exists the implications are correct.
While I do understand the opposing view, I support the bamboo_forest tag.
The Bamboo Forest seems to be a specific area situated in Gensokyo; I am not familiar with the details. This forest is often pictured in highly stylized ways, so that a Touhou fan immediately recognizes it but anyone else might see little more than a mishmash of green(ish) sticks.
Perhaps bamboo_forest_(touhou) or bamboo_forest_(gensokyo) would be more appropriate?
There is nothing special about Gensoukyou's bamboo forest that sets it apart from any other bamboo forest. If we're going to bother using the tag at all, we're keeping it general with bamboo_forest.
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If you wanted bamboo_forest in gensokyo, you could use both bamboo_forest and touhou.
At any rate, I tagged every instance of bamboo_forest.
I found several instances of bamboo in a forest that isn't a bamboo_forest, so I still support this tag.
also
create implication kadomatsu -> bamboo
I don't really know what a kadomatsu is.
Also I want to say
create implication tanabata -> bamboo since bamboo seems to part of the equation, but I've seen versions that don't seem to have bamboo in it.
Anelaid said:
create implication tanabata -> bamboo since bamboo seems to part of the equation, but I've seen versions that don't seem to have bamboo in it.
Tanabata is a holiday. Bamboo is part of it, but by no means is it ever-present. So, -1 to the implication.
Also, you don't need to prefix every alias/implication with "create."