Danbooru

how can we improve on post approval in less time ( for those who have the authority to approve post)

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I dont have the authority to approve post but I sometimes see some pretty good post get deleted (after three day approval period) before they get approved. So I want to help to improve on this. my suggestion would be to ether increase the number of days to approve a post or we can have a dedicated group to just approve or disapprove post in a more effective/efficient way.

sincerly, GTRguy

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glasnost said:
A "dedicated group to just approve or disapprove post" is how our moderation system already works, and we have forum #12247 for undeleting posts which were just overlooked by approvers. There's no real pressing need to change anything.

I see then my apologizes for my lack of knowledge of the site and thank you for your responing on such short notice (maybe it me who's slow lol)

Increasing the time will just make the queue longer. I can't speak for everyone, but I know I go through the queue fairly regularly and have either approved or hidden everything long before the three days are up, I'm pretty sure it's the same for the others as well.

Shinjidude said:

I'm pretty sure it's the same for the others as well.

If it were, I would assume appealing to be far less effective than it currently is.

Of course this is very subjective, but my experience is that if a below-contributor member posts a well-drawn on-topic image with absolutely no special qualities beyond that (i.e. an image of the type that makes up at least 40% of contributor posts), then the odds of getting it through the mod queue are considerably low but the odds in the appeal queue are strikingly high.

Makes me wonder if many janitors and moderators judge the mod queue primarily based on thumbnails but actually view all appealed posts.

You underestimate the number of uploads we get. It absolutely isn't feasible to look at every image in the moderation queue once a day. Unless it was a full time job, anyway!

There's actually a solution I came up with a while ago but forgot to actually discuss, that would allow each moderator to look at the images in more detail and (probably) make the queue move faster.

That would be to split the queue into several bits (like say, 5 queues, randomly assigned), and then randomly assigning janitors into each queue-part (so we'd have Janitors-A through Janitors-E, each group consisting of several people). This would spread the workload around more effectively, but it would also mean that janitors never see some pictures (at least not in the moderation queue). I don't exactly know if that's a bad thing or not, but it's worth thinking about, in my opinion. The moderation queue is a daunting place.

My suggestion would be that the moderation queue would be split for the janitors, but that moderators and admins see the entire queue.

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Shinjidude said:
Increasing the time will just make the queue longer. I can't speak for everyone, but I know I go through the queue fairly regularly and have either approved or hidden everything long before the three days are up, I'm pretty sure it's the same for the others as well.

I moderate when I can. Sometimes I have my queue virtually clear, other times it's pretty full. Regardless of anything else, though, I spend enough time every day to give posts that have less than twenty-four hours before auto-deletion a look. I find something to approve in that group almost every time. I generally assume this is due to differing standards and tastes. If I'm short on time, I leave those with more than twenty-four hours left to wait until the next day.

As for judging an image based on thumbnails, I generally do so only when it seems clear that the quality of the image is very low. If there's any doubt or it just looks kind of dodgy but not obviously terrible, I give the full-sized image a look. More trivia: I make roughly 60-70% of my decisions in a couple seconds. A small handful I agonize over for pretty much as much time as I can spare. I've noticed those I've agonized over but not approved tend to have pretty good odds in appeals.

It's pretty easy to go through the queue twice a day when you can either batch approve/ignore entire comics which are around 1/4 of the queue per day and generally posted by one user at a time.

The vast majority of posts that go through the queue and fail to be approved don't deserve to be approved.

IMO quite a few of the ones that do get approved don't deserve approval either. But I guess that's why I got demoted back to Contributor after my time as a Test Janitor though; I was very picky about what I approved and thus didn't approve very much.

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