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What to do when the find artist button doesn't work?

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I occassionally browse pixiv and upload nice things I find to danbooru, however I've noticed that alot of times when I put in the source url and hit the find artist button, it just gives a really long list which is generally useless. Is there a recommended procedure for handling this? So far I've just been tagging with artist_request when this happens.

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RaisingK

Find Artist only works if someone has created an artist entry for that page and added a URL to it that matches the source URL of the image you're on. Otherwise, Find Artist chops away at the URL until it matches all pixiv artists.

If the source is "http://img06.pixiv.net/img/kusuriya/7304151.jpg", do a tag search for source:*.pixiv.net/img/kusuriya/ and see if any images tagged with an artist show up. If some do, and Find Artist hadn't worked first, then be sure to add your original URL to the artist entry.

If there isn't, make one yourself, with the help of a romaji converter or three. If their name is too generic, maybe add a qualifier based on the URL. Of course, if you don't know what you're doing, maybe it's for the best that you don't do that after all...

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Log

It works fine with 1 or even 0 posts it just occasionally doesn't return an artist if a tag was just changed to artist or if an entry was just created.

If you are sure it's an established artist, the url you're uploading from may not be in the artist entry.

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evazion

This is the procedure to follow when you upload from Pixiv:

  • Do a source search for the Pixiv username. The username is found in the source URL. I.e., search source:*shirononochiko* if the URL is http://img13.pixiv.net/img/shirononochiko/2191076.jpg.
  • If you find any posts and they already have an artist tag, use that tag. You will need to update the artist entry so that Find Artist will work with this artist in the future. More on this later.
  • If this search didn't turn up any posts, or you find posts but they don't have an artist tag, then you will have to make a tag yourself. Edit the post and add artist:artist_name to the tags. More on coming up with the artist name in a bit.
  • After you make a new artist tag, you will also have to edit the artist entry. Do this by clicking the '?' next to the artist tag in the tag list. More on filling out the artist entry later.

Artist naming

Figuring out the right name for the artist is a bit of a howto in itself, as artists often have several different handles. The easiest thing to do is to use their Pixiv username (again, found in the source URL). This name is unique across Pixiv, so if you use this you usually don't have to worry about conflicts with other artists on Danbooru.

Your next choice is their Pixiv nickname (found under their profile picture). This name is not unique (multiple Pixiv artists can have the same nickname) and artists can (and do) change their nickname, so this is often not the best choice.

Finally, if the artist has an external website you can try to find their real name there, or you can just use their site name. If you can read Japanese you'll probably find a better name on their site than on Pixiv, but if you can't read Japanese you're probably better off just using their Pixiv username. There are sites for romanizing kanji artist names, but it's probably a bad idea to rely on these if you don't know any Japanese.

If you are romanizing an artist's name, be sure to follow Danbooru's romanization guidelines. Unfortunately, these aren't written down anywhere so someone else will have to explain them.

If the artist name conflicts with another tag on Danbooru you'll have to add a qualifier to disambiguate the tags. When doing this you can use any of the information found above as a qualifier. For example, if the artist's Pixiv username is 'foo' and their site name is 'bar' then the tag could be foo_(bar). Do not use the Pixiv ID as a qualifier (i.e., don't make tags like name_(pixiv1234)). Do not use _(pixiv) as a qualifier either.

Artist entries

The most important thing you need in an artist entry are the URLs of any sites the artist uses to host their work. These are necessary for Find Artist to work. For Pixiv artists, this means you need to include the source URL of one of their pictures (i.e., http://img13.pixiv.net/img/shirononochiko/2191076.jpg). You should also include the URLs of any other blogs or personal sites the artist uses. It is also helpful to include a link to the artist's Pixiv profile.

Finally, you may also list the artist's name in kanji/kana under 'Aliases'. Make sure the alias isn't already in use. An alias can only be associated with one artist entry. If you add an alias to an artist entry, and that alias was already used by another artist, then the alias will be silently removed from the old artist and added to the new artist. Search the artist database first to make sure the alias isn't already in use.

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eidolon

evazion said:

I should note that it's better if you add forward slashes to the username and add pixiv to the beginning (i.e. source:*pixiv*/shirononochiko/* or what RaisingK has in his post: source:*.pixiv.net/img/shirononochiko/).

That way if the username is ambiguous (There's an artist with a Pixiv username "001") or if a different artist has the same username on another site, it still returns the correct results.

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RaisingK

evazion said:
Figuring out the right name for the artist is a bit of a howto in itself, as artists often have several different handles. The easiest thing to do is to use their Pixiv username (again, found in the source URL). This name is unique across Pixiv, so if you use this you usually don't have to worry about conflicts with other artists on Danbooru.

Your next choice is their Pixiv nickname (found under their profile picture). This name is not unique (multiple Pixiv artists can have the same nickname) and artists can (and do) change their nickname, so this is often not the best choice.

I always give Pixiv nickname priority, then fall back on Pixiv URL or homepage URL for qualifiers or completely different names if there's a problem with the nickname. Even though the URL is fixed, the nickname is usually more of a... name.

If you are romanizing an artist's name, be sure to follow Danbooru's romanization guidelines. Unfortunately, these aren't written down anywhere so someone else will have to explain them.

Pfft. Kinda hilarious how we're supposed to follow guidelines that don't exist anywhere, eh? I wonder who would volunteer to do that. Even if it were explained, it's doubtful that many would try to keep up with it.

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evazion

eidolon said:
I should note that it's better if you add forward slashes to the username and add pixiv to the beginning (i.e. source:*pixiv*/shirononochiko/* or what RaisingK has in his post: source:*.pixiv.net/img/shirononochiko/).

That way if the username is ambiguous (There's an artist with a Pixiv username "001") or if a different artist has the same username on another site, it still returns the correct results.

There have a been a few times where I turned up an artist's personal site by searching source:*pixiv_username*. I usually only limit the search to Pixiv when the artist's username is too generic and I get obviously unrelated results.

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EB

evazion said:
There have a been a few times where I turned up an artist's personal site by searching source:*pixiv_username*. I usually only limit the search to Pixiv when the artist's username is too generic and I get obviously unrelated results.

I do the same thing, as there are plenty of times when the artist's homepage uses the same name or a very similar name in the URL, and it's good to pick up on a connection there (I think I have done that before at least once when the artist didn't have his homepage listed on Pixiv).

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zatchii

Any such guide should mention early and prominently that if you're ever in doubt, you should ask for clarification and help on the forum. Preferably in the first paragraph, to preempt the inevitable tl;dr.

RaisinK said:
Pfft. Kinda hilarious how we're supposed to follow guidelines that don't exist anywhere, eh? I wonder who would volunteer to do that. Even if it were explained, it's doubtful that many would try to keep up with it.

I imagine Haduki would be happy to write something up. I think anyone who knows the kana will be able to get the gist of it from a couple of examples.

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