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Tag Discussion: screaming & open_mouth

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yelling (6) (2) edit
scream (185) (55)
screaming (12) (2)
shouting (80) (11)

All describing the same action. The second number is the tag combined with open mouth.

Question 1) which should alias to which? edit Or are some of these distinct concepts from the other (scream seams to be associated with orgasm faces, though not orgasm itself)?
Question 2) should open mouth even be included if it's being used for something other than slack-jawed wonderment at something in frame (for instance, if it's obvious through dialogue that the character is speaking) or should scream (or whatever) implicate open mouth?
Question 3) edit should such a tag even be included since it's an auditory tag and not visual; hence all such depictions would simply be open mouth?

edit I should probably go to bed and stop getting things wrong.

Updated by Shinjidude

While I can think of various differences in nuance as far as meaning is concerned, visually they all would look the same, so I don't really see a reason to have them separate either. I imagine (though I am new to this sort of thing) the most practical move would be to make them all tag aliases of the most common one, in this case "scream."

Scream and Screaming should obviously be combined.

Probably Yelling and Shouting should be combined.

I am less sure about combing all four into one. It seems like many (but not all) of the 'scream/screaming' tags have people screaming in pain or horror, which would (IMHO) generally not fall under yelling/shouting.

If you look at shouting and compare it to scream (the two most-populated ones, so the two that should probably be used if they're not combined), you can see a clear difference overall... but (assuming they're not combined) while shouting contains almost nothing that would be a scream, there's several things in scream that belong in shouting.

I see and am inclined to agree now with the argument for the separation of scream and its conjugations and shout/yell and their conjugations with the apropriate wiki entries being made. While the actual act of screaming/shouting might not look any different, the visual context in which the screaming/shouting is being done would, and I hadn't considered that.

I'm not convinced of the need for more than one, but don't have a concise counter-argument. So unless anyone else has anything to offer, we've enough for a short wiki. There's the proactive/reactive differences, and perhaps the wordless nature of screaming in pain or horror.

No thoughts on the implementation of open mouth? My inclination is that it shouldn't be used when characters are vocalizing. Past a certain point, the more a tag is employed the less useful it becomes.

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