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Grey_hair vs Silver_hair

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Fencedude said:
Dude, why the fuck did you put the numbers in brackets, thus completely ruining the entire point of the Post #****** format?

Man, chill out. It's obvious it was by mistake, yelling at people like that is seriously not cool.

Nah, you're just butthurt because I think you're dumb, based purely on your posts. You might not remember that, but it was me who gave you privileged status, so it's not like I had some kind of beef with you. I might tend to rage, but I do not take out my anger on people who didn't act to piss me off first, which is the problem here.

We could possibly implicate white_hair, silver_hair and grey_hair to something comprehensive if it would make it easier to search for one of them without missing any. That might be better than searching for all three at once. Not sure what to use, though. "light_hair"?

In my mind grey_hair should cover the darker shades of gray while silver_should cover the lighter shades (and possibly the reflective/metallic depictions of gray). People in the past have suggested that an age difference be the separating factor though.

How exactly would you define light hair though?
Would it be dependent on how close to white the color is?
Would this tags definition vary depending on the hair color it's applied to or is it supposed to be universally cut amongst all of them?
Closeness to white might work, since images already of very light tinted hair colors of all types seem to end up under the white hair tag.

I'm not sure though if we should mess too much with the the hair color tags. Hair color tags are kind of a huge mess, and it's more or less impossible to fix the mess because of the subjective nature of color determination as well as all the other influences like simply just the brand, model, and type of our monitors.

I'd suggest aliasing gray to silver or vice-versa. There are simply too many factors: monitor brand, type of monitor, monitor calibration, what someone feels is gray and what is silver. It's a really subjective tag (not for the usual reasons) with no real way to fix it short of one person going through every image and separating them.

I was one of the people that argued against the alias grey_hair -> silver_hair that we had before, so here's why.

I don't see it so much as a difference in color (gray would be more matte than silver), but the meaning of "gray hair" is perfectly obvious. It's what old people have once their natural color runs out (ie. old_snake). Silver is what a character has "naturally" (ie. sepiroth). Sometimes I guess it'll be hard to say whether a character has silver hair because that's just cool or because he aged, but that's true of any hair color tag--there are borderline cases.

silver -> grey would solve that, short of that someone's going to have to go through and make lists of canon hair colors, even though we've stated a million times that we don't give a shit about canon tagging. There are no cases where I would go "that hair isn't grey it's silver" based on looking at an image.

For me, it really is. I wouldn't call Sepiroth's hair gray, ever. If it's an original character with similar characteristics, the same logic still applies.

I wouldn't exactly be heartbroken if we aliased the one to the other again (I'd rather go with gray->silver in that case since that's what I expect the overwhelming majority on danbooru has) but to me there really is a difference between the two, and it's not just canonical.

Heh, I don't even remember what stance I took on this the last time we discussed it. But I'd probably go with the grey = old, silver = natural too.

But as with others, I don't think it'd be the end of the world to alias grey to silver either.

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