Reason: I suggest either an alias from vivio to vivio_takamachi or a mass edit, due to the fact that she was, after all, officially adopted by Nanoha and thus gained the Takamachi family name. (Should've been done at the end of StrikerS, but meh.)
Reason: I suggest either an alias from vivio to vivio_takamachi or a mass edit, due to the fact that she was, after all, officially adopted by Nanoha and thus gained the Takamachi family name.
First off, "Takamachi_Vivio", not the way you have it. Secondly, don't we have precedent regarding a character's name changing at the end of the series and not changing how they're tagged here?
Yeah, I think this is one that shouldn't change, for spoiler reasons. At least until another animated season or two cements it in the mind of the casual observer.
edit: The Fate one is there right from the beginning of StrikerS, however, so I'm slightly in favor of that. Still, with her, it could work either way.
RaisingK said: First off, "Takamachi_Vivio", not the way you have it.
Wasn't sure whether it'd go in that order or not, due to Vivio not actually being Japanese.
RaisingK said: Secondly, don't we have precedent regarding a character's name changing at the end of the series and not changing how they're tagged here?
sgcdonmai said: Yeah, I think this is one that shouldn't change, for spoiler reasons. At least until another animated season or two cements it in the mind of the casual observer.
edit: The Fate one is there right from the beginning of StrikerS, however, so I'm slightly in favor of that. Still, with her, it could work either way.
sgcdonmai said: Hey, if you're going to go back and edit your own posts, give us the chance to edit ours before assuming.
Sorry 'bout that.
RaisingK said: Nanoha is...
I guess if you look at it as a reverse of Subaru's situation, then it makes sense.
RaisingK said: Considering the forum thread I linked, it would be the other way, from new name to old one.
...Oh, okay. So still an alias, but just the other way around.
EDIT: Oh yeah, I'd forgotten that I'd actually searched for "takamachi_vivio" first, and then gotten a tag recommendation of "vivio_takamachi". (No recommendation of just "vivio" when I searched for "vivio_takamachi", though.)
Late-series/franchise plot-relevant revelations are not and should not be reflected in character name tagging.
I'm sorta okay with aliasing them, but only if we think people are using the other tags extensively expecting to find something. Sometimes the act of doing that can be a spoiler, though not so much in this case.
Cat_Megex said: I guess if you look at it as a reverse of Subaru's situation, then it makes sense.
Don't worry about their ethnicity or nationality. Simply do it like it's done in the original. Subaru has her family name second despite its clear Japanese origins (no doubt because she didn't grow up in Japan), so it goes second in the tagging. See also some Gundam characters. This is part of why we have a "original order" policy, not just a strictly "Japanese order" policy, because not every name is meant to be Japanese order, even some that are of Japanese origin.
Late-series/franchise plot-relevant revelations are not and should not be reflected in character name tagging.
I can understand that with Fate, since she's been around since the beginning of the franchise and thus has a long history of being known as "Fate Testarossa". But Vivio doesn't even appear until late in the franchise, so the name change came fairly shortly after she was introduced. And now she's even got her own manga series where she's specifically known as "Takamachi Vivio" from the start. Which I seem to recall being told is exactly the sort of development in the franchise that could result in a tag change when I suggested this mass edit a while back.
I agree that Fate should stay the same, unless we want to start separately tagging her child and adult versions (but thats ridiculous), however Vivio has a good case for getting her full name.
Fencedude said: I agree that Fate should stay the same, unless we want to start separately tagging her child and adult versions (but thats ridiculous)
I think I recall some Danbooru-style sites doing exactly that.
But yes, it's ridiculous on those sites and would be ridiculous here. Going through our nearly 4000 Fate images to sort out which ones are "Fate Testarossa" and which are "Fate T Harlaown" would be the most pointless waste of time ever.
Magus said: But Vivio doesn't even appear until late in the franchise, so the name change came fairly shortly after she was introduced.
The earlier seasons aren't relevant here. The bottom line is that someone watching StrikerS for the first time will not know about Vivio's adoption and name change until later in the show, and the actual full name itself doesn't appear until the epilogue. The same standard is applied to any character. A spinoff manga doesn't change that. I'm leaving her Vivio.
Eh, I was just going by what albert told me a year ago when I suggested mass editing vivio to takamachi_vivio. He said, basically, no for now but maybe if a new series with her comes out. Since exactly that has happened...
