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Topic: Commonly misused tags

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GiantCaveMushroom

I feel that a topic for commonly misused tags would be useful to have since I've seen some tags being frequently misused despite clear notes on situations NOT to use them in. It will at least make future tag cleanups slightly easier and not clutter up topic #12251.

If you happen to encounter some commonly misused tags or tag combinations, please bring them up. I'll put the ones I've noticed to start with.

crescent_moon for crescent shaped objects/symbols. This was/is common on characters like patchouli_knowledge when it should have used crescent_hair_ornament or just crescent instead. This is a rather annoying tag to clean up because crescent_moon implicates moon, which means two tags need to be removed or else there will be images of characters in broad, moonless, daylight tagged with moon.

squirting. Despite the wiki stating it is not to be used for female_ejaculation and lactation, it still appears on images with excretions of female bodily fluids.

facing_viewer is to be used on characters with closed eyes. If a solo image contains both facing_viewer and looking_at_viewer, something has been tagged wrong or the character tagged is a special case (Like, say, an Ettin-chan or something).

floating (when on air) instead of afloat (when in/on water). This is an understandable mistagging due to the very similar circumstances of both tags, but it's not an easily cleaned one due to the need to judge them case by case. In any case, searching floating and water will result in images that need afloat instead but also images where a character is floating midair above water.

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  • kuuderes shadow

    Some others:

    text is meant to be used only on things where it's a major part of the image but some people use it on literally any image with any sort of text on it anywhere.

    Short hair being used to refer to male characters.

    Solo gets used a lot on solo focus and multiple views stuff, although this doesn't seem to be as bad as it used to be.

    Some people still seem to feel the need to continue manually adding eyebrows to everything with eyebrows visible through hair whether it's appropriate or not. Probably because the remnants of the old implication were never fully removed.

    casual and contemporary get used a lot on one-off original characters, or characters that are incompatable with the tag (eg. contemporary being used on characters who wear contemporary clothing and come from contemporary settings anyway).

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  • Unbreakable

    Solo being used in comic pages with one character in several panels or just for multiple views posts like kuuderes shadow mentioned, also being used together with solo focus sometimes.

    Naked towel being used when the characters isn't even wearing the towel (sometimes it's only in their lap) and mostly where nude cover would fit instead.

    Partially submerged when the character is just sitting in shallow water.

    Short hair being used when the hair is touching the shoulders.

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  • SoulEvansEater

    fossilnix said:

    When tags are commonly misused, maybe we should start changing their names to disambiguate them?

    Probably not a bad idea. Hair lengths could be "hair_cut_at_shoulder" or "hair_cut_at_neck" or "hair_below_shoulders" for example. Red glasses and red-framed eyewear could be red lenses and red frames.

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  • CodeKyuubi

    Chiera said:

    Some tag combinations I encountered earlier and took care about (except the first one) because they are mutually exclusive:

    looking_at_viewer <-> blindfold

    striped_bikini <-> white_bikini

    nude <-> bare_shoulders or bare_legs or bare_arms

    topless <-> nude

    topless <-> bare_shoulders + bare_arms

    bottomless <-> bare_legs

    hands_in_sleeves <-> sleeves_past_wrists

    You can be nude while having things on your arms or legs, armwear and legwear are considered accessories. As such, bare arms, bare shoulders, and bare legs are not mutually exclusive with nudity, toplessness, or bottomlessness.

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  • Chiera

    CodeKyuubi said:

    You can be nude while having things on your arms or legs, armwear and legwear are considered accessories. As such, bare arms, bare shoulders, and bare legs are not mutually exclusive with nudity, toplessness, or bottomlessness.

    Not with the current definition of the wiki: nude.

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  • CodeKyuubi

    Chiera said:

    Not with the current definition of the wiki: nude.

    "Accessories don't count. If a character is wearing items that don't cover their chest or crotch - such as gloves, detached sleeves, thighhighs, hats, shoulder pads, necklaces, neckties, collars, belts, garter belts, and so on - they're still considered nude."

    You yourself were the one who added that bare_x does not work with nude, when the original wiki says they do.

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  • Chiera

    CodeKyuubi said:

    "Accessories don't count. If a character is wearing items that don't cover their chest or crotch - such as gloves, detached sleeves, thighhighs, hats, shoulder pads, necklaces, neckties, collars, belts, garter belts, and so on - they're still considered nude."

    You yourself were the one who added that bare_x does not work with nude, when the original wiki says they do.

    Yes, and it doesn't make sense because these tags are describing partial nudity.
    It doesn't bite with gloves for example. You don't want to use bare_arms in both cases because even if you are nude, there is the gloves tag to use and otherwise we assume the character is just completely naked.

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  • evazion

    The bare shoulders wiki has said it shouldn't be used for nude posts for six years. bare arms is similar, it was discussed in topic #7949 and the conclusion was not to use it for nude posts.

    But let's not sidetrack this thread too much. I suggest taking this to the Wiki Requests thread if it needs to be discussed further. That's where these definitions were last discussed.

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  • BrokenEagle98

    How about creating a wiki called List of commonly misused tags? It would contain a brief synopsis along with links to the corresponding wikis for more details. That way, we can distill what might end up being pages of discussion into a single document.

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  • EB

    Jersey is still often tagged on track jackets. Always have a few to clean up when I look at the former tag after it's been a while.

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  • kuuderes shadow

    GiantCaveMushroom said:

    I recently discovered the side_glance tag, and it appears that looking_to_the_side and side_glance may have been used on one another on some posts.

    The early uses of side glance were not used for this, whereas looking to the side has always been used for that purpose.

    The wiki pages for both tags were changed on the unilateral decision of a single user without any prior discussion about 2 weeks ago.

    Edit: I reverted the looking to the side one. I've left the side glance one for now as that hadn't had a wiki previously, and it's a bit difficult to replace it with anything when it doesn't have a fixed purpose. We currently have 3 different tags (there's sideways glance as well) which are used to describe much the same range of things, which may want sorting out sooner or later, but this shouldn't be done by a single user deciding by themself what each one should be for (and in the process accidentally leaving some of the tags' potential uses without a logical home)... let alone doing all this and then not telling people that they have done so.

    Updated by kuuderes shadow

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  • worldendDominator

    I have no idea if that counts as common, but I just noticed that zenra has quite a number of posts that are supposed to be just nude.
    I removed its Japanese name, but it still needs cleanup.

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  • evazion

    • doujinshi: This is normally for scans of printed comics. Don't forget the scan tag and don't use on ordinary web comics from Pixiv.
    • solo: Don't use when a penis is in frame. The character is not alone.
    • vampire: Don't slap this on every remilia scarlet or flandre scarlet post. Tag what you see. Only use it when the character is displaying vampiric traits (has fangs, is drinking blood, etc).
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