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Just making sure before I go through some pics to edit. I found this quote on a board.
"To me, squatting is where you go down enough that your butt touches your shoes while crouching is like sitting on an imaginary chair."
Squat -
"To sit on the heels with the knees bent in front of the body and the weight resting on the balls of the feet (where your toes are)."
Crouch -
"To put the weight on the ball of the feet. To bend close to the ground" "Animal ready to spring type of pose"
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It seems like Squat should show pictures of feet (ball and heel) appearing flat on the ground. While Crouch should be of feet (ball) being on the ground but the heel is raised.
Squat post #348251 and post #341541
Crouch post #373913 and post #363373
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Both definitions here sound right to me
Squat: flat feet, straight back, typically a stationary stature used to rest / relieve oneself. I'd also say the legs would tend to spread more than in a crouch.
Crouch: on balls of feet, bent back, more a stealthy motion or poise to take motion than a stationary stance.
That's how I'd define them anyway. I'd say the stances are similar, but not enough to warrant an alias.
It would be easy to go through and change the tags to the proper postures.
But it would also make sense to alias them, unless people really like being specific on what they see (me for example ^_^).
There are some pics in crouch that I don't know why they are there in the first place.
Looking briefly through the tags, I'd probably change most of them to squat, though posts like for example post #345792 I would keep as "crouch". There's also kneeling to worry about, though the overlap is much less.
But do we really need separate tags? Probably not. After all, wink covers pretty much any facial expression in which one eye is closed, regardless of whether it is an actual wink or not. Similarly I don't think we need to care much about how active or passive the stance of a squat/crouch is, and users probably shouldn't have to either.
0xCCBA696 said: But do we really need separate tags?
I don't think so, no. Not with so few crouching tags and the tag being so badly applied.
If someone wants to go through and find a couple hundred "true crouch" images then I might be convinced to keep them separate. But just aliasing sounds like the best course of action.
okay. that was mildly amusing.
Tagged what I saw as crouch.
Some pics had crouching with kneeling (the knee isn't touching the ground, but the feet are in a crouch pose), so I put both tags for those.
And unless 0xCCBA696 was talking about specifics poses with kneeling, I went through all the pages and they seem fine.
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See, I'd say post #370452 is an unambiguous squat. So too for a number of others too. I don't know if the difference is really holding up.
Hmm, giving it a quick look, most of what is in crouch right now I'd classify as squat. I'm all for keeping the tags separate, but if there isn't enough true crouch to keep it, an alias wouldn't be terrible. I know there are true crouches in there though. I'm on a slow connection ATM, or else I'd give a shot at sorting it out myself to see how many true crouches there are. If the subject is urinating or having sex though it's almost certainly going to be squat rather than crouch.
To me, the main difference is in feet positioning. In a crouch, one foot is in front of the other, and the knees are often at differing heights. In a squat, the feet are side by side, more or less beneath the shoulders, with the knees at the same height.
These are crouchs:
post #329875
post #345792
post #376144
post #360710
post #359041
post #363269
post #197028
And these are squats:
post #375375
post #371725
I only found maybe 30-40 images that looked like definite crouchs to me. I'm starting to think they're different enough to keep separate, but then again people seem prone to misusing the tags so it may not be worth it.
You 3 should have said you disagreed about. ^_^;
"balancing on ball of feet = crouch"
"ball and heel on ground = squat"
Evazion, the pics you chose are called "Crouching Stance" / "Position" . But they are not solid Crouches.
Not to use Google as a backup, but it does display that a squat is both feet flat on the ground.
http://www.wellnessasawayoflife.com/yoga.php?c=330099
When it came to me placing crouch with a heel up, those can be called squats, if they are in action. I suppose like exercising, the pic jxh2154 posted. Like this one post #339774 too.
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How about this idea.
Tag/Alias Everything as Squat , and give different positions using Brackets, or will that be too much?
To me it would be simple, because with this at least it would put things into detail, and the word Squat is still present, and all the pictures would be there under that tag only. I am agreeing that they should just be placed together since people will have their own idea of what a Squat, Crouch, or Kneel is.
Example:
squat_(ting) post #339774 (moving action, or exercising)
squat_(heelup) post #343564 (an action, balancing, but obviously he/she is not in full motion)
squat_(heeldown) post #348251 (stationary, resting, toilet related)
squat_(kneel) post #329875 (a ready stance, one knee down one knee up)
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unicogirl said: How about this idea.
Tag/Alias Everything as Squat , and give different positions using Brackets, or will that be too much?
Example:
squat_(ting) post #339774
squat_(heelup) post #343564
squat_(heeldown) post #348251
squat_(kneel) post #329875
Way too much detail.
