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[APPROVED] Tag implication: oonusa -> gohei

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create implication oonusa -> gohei

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From forum #125028.

I'm of the mindset that oonusas are a type of gohei (just with many shide attached;3+) and should be implicated as such, but it isn't all too well defined to our users. So I think we should have a discussion about it.

Here are some definitions taken from Kokugakuin's Encyclopedia of Shinto:

Gohei

A kind of ritual wand, one type of heihaku, also called heisoku. Gohei were originally identical to cloth offerings called mitegura, but the term gradually came to be used in its present, narrower sense. Gohei are made by attaching zig-zag cut strips of gold, silver, white or multicolored (five-color) paper to a staff (called a heigushi) made of bamboo or other wood. Previously, offerings of cloth were presented to the kami by attaching them to a staff, and today's gohei is a variation of this. Rectangular paper was first used, but the custom later developed of attaching streamers called shide to the sides. Gohei began as offerings to the kami and were placed deep within the sanctuary. They came to be used as mishōtai, objects in which the spirit of the kami resided, were placed before the kami as a decoration in the same way as mirrors, or were used as implements to purify worshipers at the shrine.

Oonusa

An honorific for the more common nusa, a ritual purification wand. Wands presented when invoking the kami or when exorcising sins or imperfections (tsumi) were called nusa, and made primarily from the inner bast of paper mulberry (yū), fibers of flax (asa), and, later, from woven fabrics and paper. In his Kojikiden, Motoori Norinaga defined ōnusa as divine offerings of silk, yū, or flax. One ancient usage can be seen in Kojiki's record of Emperor Chūai, in which an ōnusa was used in the Great Purification Ritual (ōharae). Ōnusa used in purification rituals may be made of linen or paper streamers (shide) attached to a branch of the sakaki tree, or the streamers may be attached to a hexagonal or octagonal staff of unfinished wood (the latter type is also called haraegushi). In ancient times, a person undergoing purification held the ōnusa in hand in order to transfer sins (tsumi) and pollutions (kegare) to it, or the ōnusa was waved (left, right, left) over the object to be purified. In later times, however, it became standard to wave the ōnusa over the person or object. See also heihaku.

Both are wands of ritual Shinto offerings (幣帛, heihaku), so this implication could be different. We could have a BUR that implicates oonusa/gohei/shide/other kinds of cloth offerings to a hypothetical tag heihaku, but I feel if we do that it's going to be a bit too complicated. Plus, using that sort of tag would be so unheard of among most taggers.

Some useful searches for gardening/referencing:

EDIT: The tag implication oonusa -> gohei has been approved by @Type-kun.

Updated by DanbooruBot

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kiyah123

From the kochiya_sanae wiki I changed the sentence:

Her signature gohei is of the oonusa variety.

to

Her signature gohei is different from the norm as it has straight paper decorations.

since it is not an oonusa as defined here. Though this would not stop regular taggers recognising her wand as an oonusa it may stop newer taggers since they would rely more on the wiki character tags.

Also feel free to change my edit since it may not have the best wording.

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Sacriven

Mikaeri said:

Basically, yeah. I also forgot to mention the possibility of implicating haraegushi to oonusa, but haraegushi is pretty rare to begin with, despite the 128 post count.

Which means almost all of Reimu's pics with gohei are mistagged. Oh well~

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kiyah123

Sacriven said:

Currently oonusa only have ten posts, a lot less than before. Which tempts me to ask, why? Reimu's gohei is clearly an oonusa based from explanation above, but somehow a lot of oonusa tags were deleted and replaced by gohei.

That would be my doing. Basically, from the definitions above, a gohei is a wand that has shide attached to it (usually 2) which are zig-zag paper streamers. An oonusa is also a wand but it has many shide attached (at least 3) like here or the base case.

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Sacriven

kiyah123 said:

That would be my doing. Basically, from the definitions above, a gohei is a wand that has shide attached to it (usually 2) which are zig-zag paper streamers. An oonusa is also a wand but it has many shide attached (at least 3) like here or the base case.

Hmm, I think the sooner this implication is approved, the better. If the difference between gohei and oonusa is just the amount of zig-zags, then I'm using it right.

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