Pixiv uploaders and unhelpful source URLs

I have to wonder - people uploading images from pixiv, why are you so often uploading images using the following format:

http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=1774030

...instead of the actual link to the image, like: http://img09.pixiv.net/img/kumadano/1774030.png

I understand that when you click the sample size to get the full size, the URL that comes up is the top one (which is useless for mass editing and find artist!). But there are easy ways around this.

If you're pasting the source in manually, just right click the image and 'Copy Image Location' (in Firefox, or the equivalent in other browsers) and use that instead. That will give you the link.

Or use the danbooruup extension. I do, and it always inserts the true URL to the image, automatically, every single time. Requires no input from me.

Unfortunately, only people who actually read these forums will ever see the suggestions, but at least that'll help stop it from happening in some cases.

Like the extension, the bookmarklet (which I'm using until the extension gets updated) also enters the true URL.

Edit: You can find it here.

http://danbooru.donmai.us/help/bookmarklet

Don't forget to right-click and select "View image" before using it though.

jxh2154 said:
If you're pasting the source in manually, just right click the image and 'Copy Image Location' (in Firefox, or the equivalent in other browsers) and use that instead. That will give you the link.

I'm not using Firefox, but everytime I use the image property as link source O_o'

*Forbidden*

You don't have permission to access /img/kumadano/1774030.png on this server.

The link in the source will automatically convert to the "mode=medium&" etc. link.

But yeah, the 403 is probably why people do it, but it nevertheless needs to stop.

(Edit--it works for me)

memegui said: *Forbidden*
You don't have permission to access /img/kumadano/1774030.png on this server.

Then something with your computer fails, because it works perfectly every single time for me. And always has.

memegui said:
*Forbidden*

You don't have permission to access /img/kumadano/1774030.png on this server.

How are you accessing it? It should work fine for you unless you are somehow making into a link that sends a referer code other than PixIV's. If you are just accessing directly via your browser you should have no problem. What OS and browser do you use?

I got the "Forbidden" error, but after I went to the full-size image with the other link, then the link starts working.

I will admit I did the Pixiv source links wrong at first because I didn't realize the source URL was automatically converted. I made sure to correct all of them a few months ago when I found out (mainly because I read posts on the forum discussing it)

Will do.

The Forbidden is why I never did it either. I don't have Firefox 2 so I have been downloading the pictures, uploading them manually, then putting in the source url later... Guess I'll change which url I put in there.

I saw someone else complaining about having the 'big' url vs the 'medium', so I changed to medium, but I guess even that was wrong, huh.

Though, if you need to see the picture via the medium/big link before the direct link works (which is how it seems to be), doesn't it defeat the purpose?

Akari said: Though, if you need to see the picture via the medium/big link before the direct link works (which is how it seems to be), doesn't it defeat the purpose?

I'm not sure what you mean? Danbooru has a redirect scripted in so that if you upload the actual image (*.jpg, *.png etc) itself, the 'source' link will automatically direct you to the artist's page with the tags and all that.

That way, we get both ease of access to image (with the redirect) and ability to use Find Artist and reliably mass edit (with the precise link).

My method and reasoning was the same as Akari's. I didn't know Danbooru converts the source link automatically to a viewable URL. I've gone through and converted my pixiv posts to use the actual image URLs.

By the way, is there a tag akin to source/translation request one can put on a picture when they don't want to guess at an artist name? post #318744 for me, and maybe post #312941 (矢純=yajun?)

7HS said: By the way, is there a tag akin to source/translation request one can put on a picture when they don't want to guess at an artist name? post #318744 for me, and maybe post #312941 (矢純=yajun?)

tagme(artist) exists though it should probably be tagme_(artist) like all the other qualifier tags.

As for the latter artist, it's possible it changed in the 10 hours since you posted but their pixiv name is in roman charactera already - yazzz. On the other hand, on their website (not pixiv), they have this line:

yzyはHN矢純の個人ホームページです

"Handle name is yzy, 矢純 is the personal hompage." SO the latter is actually the site name, not the artist name. Since we take PN/HNs from personal webpages over pixiv (which artists are known to change repeatedly in some cases), I'd tag him (and have), yzy.

I also found in the course of this that someone made a yazzz_(pixiv) tag (I really don't like the pixiv qualifier, much less the pixiv# qualifier but that's an aside I guess), and so I converted those to yzy.

Btw, guessing (if you're basing the guess on something) is okay. As long as you confirm first that the artist isn't already on danbooru (source:* searches are great for this if you know how to do them), just go to town.

since there were only 12 posts, I've moved tagme(artist) to tagme_(artist) to conform with the standard

I'm using Firefox 3 on Windows and get the 403 every time, unless I had visited the image before, in that case it let's me see the image, I don't know if it's because it was on my web cache or if I got permission by visiting pixiv.

Could you post some more examples of direct link and pixiv-medium link so I can check?

Though I don't know what advantage there is to link to the direct image instead of the page it's in, if the image is removed it just becomes a dead link.

memegui said: Though I don't know what advantage there is to link to the direct image instead of the page it's in

You could actually read the thread, for one.

Ok, now I get it. I just uploaded a picture using the true image url and it worked (which saves me time, thanks!). But the url that shows up in the source field ends up being the same anyway (at least for me, but I was manually putting in source urls before), so I don't actually understand what the complaining was about.

If you put the true URL in the source, the redirect works, and you can use the link to get to the "medium" pixiv page. Also the system can work with the real URL of the picture.

If you put the "medium" pixiv page URL in the source, there is no way to determine the true URL, and the system can't use it to determine the artist for instance.

The REAL source field still holds the link to the actual .jpg file, and is used for finding the artist or mass tagging scripts, since the URL contains the pixiv account name. (Just click edit again and you'll see it.)

The source that's displayed on the post page is the converted "medium" URL, which is useless for the artist scripts or mass tagging because it does not contain the pixiv account name. But it's useful for the viewers because it doesn't give a 403 when you follow the link.

That's why the .jpg link goes in the source field and is auto-converted when viewing the page so people can click on it. If you put the .php link in the source field, the "find artist" feature or tag scripts wouldn't work.