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Topic: Civility on the forum

glasnost

TheMuffinMan said:
I just got one for making a mistake *copy/pasted the wrong source* and the message comes off as condescending, rude, and talking down.

I couldn't disagree more -- I find that it states the facts clearly, pointing out in no uncertain terms that a mistake was made and that the recipient probably needs to change their behavior to prevent the problem from recurring, and that its tone is entirely appropriate to their purpose. At worst, you could say that "that fixes NOTHING" in the final paragraph is slightly over the top, but calling this 'rude' and 'condescending' is a little ridiculous.

Of course, if the message has changed between the one I got and the one you got, disregard the above entirely; for discussion's sake, here is a copy of the one I received 5 months ago:

RaisingK said:
Regarding post #958404 ( tag edit @ 2011-07-21 05:12 ):

You gave this post the source of a pixiv manga sample ( http://img67.pixiv.net/img/zounose/20469590_p1.jpg ), but it was actually the full size ( http://img67.pixiv.net/img/zounose/20469590_big_p1.jpg )--the full size was either identical to sample or not uploaded from the URL you supplied (Danbooru automatically downloads the full size when possible).

Check your other recent edits/uploads for other corrections this scan may have made, and please be more careful in the future. If you really do know better and just made a random mistake, don't worry about it. Nothing else will be done, and you won't get any other notices unless other mistakes are found in later scans.

See also howto:pixiv, pixiv thumbnail, and pixiv manga sample. If you have any questions, please contact jxh2154.

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pixiv thumbnail: Non-manga pixiv images come in three sizes: the small thumbnail that shows up in searches and illustration lists (e.g. http://img16.pixiv.net/img/fiute/11200171_s.jpg ), the medium thumbnail that shows up on 'mode=medium' pages (e.g. http://img16.pixiv.net/img/fiute/11200171_m.jpg ), and the full size that shows up on 'mode=big' and 'mode=manga' pages (e.g. http://img16.pixiv.net/img/fiute/11200171.jpg ). Note the '_s' and '_m' at the end of the thumbnails' filenames. If the image's dimensions are small enough, one or both of the thumbnails will be identical to the full size, but don't count on this.

pixiv manga sample: Manga-mode pixiv images come into two sizes: "sample" versions that are displayed initially (e.g. "http://img61.pixiv.net/img/alkjsld/1498651_p0.jpg") and "big" versions linked to (if you are registered) by the icon above each page as well as the page number (e.g. "http://img61.pixiv.net/img/alkjsld/1498651_big_p0.jpg"). (Old images don't have a big size, however.) Sometimes the two images are identical, and other times the difference is very slight--the sample's filesize can even be much larger than the original's, due to the terrible resizer pixiv uses. Posts that match the sample but not also the big size (when it exists) are pixiv manga samples, regardless of the nature of the difference.

The full version is the only one that should be uploaded to Danbooru. Once a post has been uploaded, however, the source should point to the exact same image as the post. Do not change the sources of existing thumbnail/sample posts to point to full size images that aren't exactly identical--that fixes NOTHING. In the future, upload directly from the correct full size links. In the case where the thumbnail/sample is identical to the full size, using the thumbnail/sample URL is still wrong, because it hides the fact that it the post really is the original version.

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