Pretty please. Just use the parenting function.

And at the very least, tell us what it's a duplicate OF so we can parent it if you can't figure out how.

Thanks.

I just registered and I did that for an image. Sorry

What is the "parenting function"? I have read the help but I still don't understand.

When you post an picture, there is a field for an parent post.
You put the originals post number to that field. You can find the number sequence in the url to the original post. Just copy that sequence to the parent post field.

I'm sorry if I remembered it wrong. However, you should atleast realize what I'm refering to if you have posted a single pic.

I don't have any pictures to post. Instead I was going to identity all the duplicate images that already exist. I think if you take a moment to put yourself in the shoes of someone who is new to this site, you would see it is not obvious to work out the best way of doing that.

dog_spawn said: I think if you take a moment to put yourself in the shoes of someone who is new to this site, you would see it is not obvious to work out the best way of doing that.

And now you know. It's not like you were in trouble for it before.

I just did this too, before seeing this thread. My apologies. I did have a link to the original in there though :)

Er...guilty of this. Although I don't see why you would want an exact copy of an image on the site as a parent of the original, rather than just getting rid of it. Is this just in regards to resized/cropped images?

Persona said:
Er...guilty of this. Although I don't see why you would want an exact copy of an image on the site as a parent of the original, rather than just getting rid of it. Is this just in regards to resized/cropped images?

I think that's to avoid another person uploading it again, basically (especially if there's multiple "official" versions, such as a wallpaper version or a larger version).

Although when I think about it, if you delete an image, it does the same thing since the hash is saved. So yeah, good question actually?

Persona said: Er...guilty of this. Although I don't see why you would want an exact copy of an image on the site as a parent of the original, rather than just getting rid of it. Is this just in regards to resized/cropped images?

Well, personally I would be in agreement and would delete, but site policy is to only delete for rules violations, and so that's what I'm going with. It also prevents someone else from uploading an image with the exact same hash (though I was under the impression deleting it did the same).

So yes, duped just get parented and tagged "duplicate".

jxh2154 said:
Well, personally I would be in agreement and would delete, but site policy is to only delete for rules violations, and so that's what I'm going with. It also prevents someone else from uploading an image with the exact same hash (though I was under the impression deleting it did the same).

So yes, duped just get parented and tagged "duplicate".

Okay, thank you for clearing that up, and sorry for the unnecessary flagging in that case. Someone actually parented my duplicate image, but when I realized it was the same as it's parent I thought I should try to fix it.

Persona said: Okay, thank you for clearing that up, and sorry for the unnecessary flagging in that case.

That's fine. I'm not actually pissed at anyone, the subject line is all in caps to get people's attention. And so far it has for three people, and those are only the ones who admitted it =P So I think it worked,

Making this sticky for now just so people see it, because it's been happening more lately.

Albert, please feel free to unstick it at any time. I just wanted to remind people.

Oops. Working on three hours of sleep and let one slip. D: MY BAD.

Parent: http://danbooru.donmai.us/post/show/122303
Child: http://danbooru.donmai.us/post/show/167355 (duplicate)

I've hashed both images with the original from the artists website and have determined the parent is the original image.

In this case, would it be beneficial to remove all tags, save the duplicate tag, from the child post? This would free the site of some of the clutter from duplicates and the post would still be available, since it's effectively inheriting the parent posts tags.

Granted, a reupload with tags of the child image would mess this up.

testure said: In this case, would it be beneficial to remove all tags, save the duplicate tag, from the child post? This would free the site of some of the clutter from duplicates and the post would still be available, since it's effectively inheriting the parent posts tags.

No, it's probably best to just leave the tags.

What I think albert should do, if he gets the chance, is put a border around child images. I like seeing it around the parent, but something to distinguish a child from the thumbnail results view would be awesome.

Sorry, I hadn't noticed this and flagged a few of my own already.

Because this is happening a lot again, I'm bumping this to get it where people can see it. Please don't flag dupes for deletion, it just clogs up the flagged list with things that don't need to be there.

Thanks.

Bumping so everyone can see this.

If we bump this, the only people who'll see it are those who read the forums. And most of them already know about it, anyway, so it's pretty much useless.

Updating the help pages, or putting the current policies together in some visible location would be better.

It's not "useless" because no doubt the majority of all tagging, flagging, uploading etc is done by a very small percentage of danbooru users, and at least the most prolific will see it. However, it should probably be part of the flagging dialog box that comes up to include this warning. Then everyone sees it.

I still think duplicates serve no purpose and should be deleted.

Thankfully, danbooru most definitely does not run on what you think.

May I ask why we keep duplicates? No offense or anything, it just doesn't make sense to me and I'm curious. I'm personally in the same boat as memegui in this situation.

They aren't violating any rules, so it's not necessary to remove them. Besides, it's not like deleting the files actually deletes the files. A deleted file takes up as much server space as a nondeleted one. Otherwise mods couldn't undelete them.

They're not violating the rules, but they're annoying and useless and needlessly split the score of a picture.

memegui said:
They're not violating the rules, but they're annoying and useless and needlessly split the score of a picture.

You're not going to avoid the last one. People are going to post lower quality versions initially regardless of how you handle things, which may get high scores. Then when you post thigh higher quality version, you get a better picture with a low score. The score doesn't transfer, and when you delete a post, you'll potentially be deleting that higher score that the picture deserved along with people's favorites.

Another problem with deleting pictures is that it raises people's deleted score unfairly. The source user didn't break the rules when they posted the dupe, so why penalize them? This could become a dealbreaker when it comes members vying for promotion.

Then comes the issue with near duplicates. If an artist released an image at one resolution, then subtly changed some things and released it again at a higher quality, which gets deleted? What about censored vs uncensored images? I'm not endorsing fan uncensoring here, but since the original always trumps, there would be no point to uploading uncensored versions at all.

In short, there are many reasons to not delete duplicates. In my opinion, enough to off-balance the "they annoy memegui" factor.

But what about exact dupes?

Exact dupes can't be uploaded twice anyway.

There's a very good reason not to delete dupes: if someone uploads the dupe again, they'll be redirected to a post that will very likely have the copyright, character, and artist. They'll also be able to see the original version. Most dupes are probably downloaded from imageboards so chances are a given image will only have 2-3 real dupes.

piespy said:
Exact dupes can't be uploaded twice anyway.

But they can be uploaded once? There are plenty of dupes with no discernible difference from the original.

@ albert- Isn't that what the "find similar" button is for? It allows users to find the original image on danbooru without uploading anything.

When we can identify an image file exactly, why would you want to switch to an approximate method that requires human verification?